Terry_Train
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I love collecting the little pocket maps. Just seen the latest on ebay for a couple of quids with the new wiggle extension! Anyone else like a kid at Christmas?! Haha
Oh wow! Unfortunately I’ve ruptured my Achilles and am recovering from surgery. Will head out there when I’m back up and about!When I was in London last month, I saw a whole wad of them in Uxbridge Station. Head there?
Yeh, handy for those outside of London or those on crutches like me!Suppose whomever is selling them on Ebay has had to get hold of the map, package it up, post it and presumably also pay Ebay a fee. Won't be all that much in it for them after all that, if the selling price is a couple of quid, even if the maps have been sourced for free.
So the cover art on the latest pocked tube map has the words "sit alongside and feel me breathe" printed on it.
That's, um, an interesting choice in the present time...
TfL missing out on a means of making some money. Perhaps they can recoup the lost revenue from the late opening of Crossrail by flogging timetables and pocket maps on eBayHuge market for current stuff on Ebay, train and bus. The one that gets me is that people pay for current dalesbus timetables, when the pdf of exactly the same content is online.
Last card map was September 2021, before that was June 2021.how often do TfL put out a new map ? 6 monthly ? Is there a place you can find the release date ?
Last card map was September 2021, before that was June 2021.
There is no set interval between releases.
Unlikely to be a card issue for the Northern Line closure, so next expected is Elizabeth Line part opening and Barking Riverside for later in the year.
The bus map doesn't support a vast range of tourist-focused merchandise — of which the tube map represents a much-needed chunk of TfL's income.It's bizarre, of course, that the tube map covers a much less complicated system than the bus map - yet the latter is no longer produced, even though its absence causes far more problems than the absence of a printed tube map would!
The bus map doesn't support a vast range of tourist-focused merchandise — of which the tube map represents a much-needed chunk of TfL's income.
1) It managed to be done for about eighty years, up to a few years agoWouldn't the sheer number of buses/routes/paths taken in london would make this an absolute mess of a diagram ?
Wouldn't the sheer number of buses/routes/paths taken in london would make this an absolute mess of a diagram ?
I know there are local bus maps (like those you see at the bus stops). They usually show routes local to that stop, and are normally a good reference for route planning.
Fortunately these days, with mobile devices, the online route planners are pretty good at giving you viable bus routes.
1) It managed to be done for about eighty years, up to a few years ago
2) It's precisely because of all the routes and roads traversed that you need a map to sort them out!
Take a look at busmap.co.uk to see what can be done. It will be updated at some point post pandemic.
What I meant was, the only reason we have any paper map of any sort at all, is the marketing connection. TfL have clearly decided on the philosophy that passengers' needs are to be met exclusively by point-to-point digital itineraries.Sure - but in terms of producing a paper, fold-up, pocket map for use by actual travellers, the bus map is far more essential than the tube map.
What I meant was, the only reason we have any paper map of any sort at all, is the marketing connection. TfL have clearly decided on the philosophy that passengers' needs are to be met exclusively by point-to-point digital itineraries.
Roger French is one of the most well-regarded figures in the bus industry, albeit now retired from the 'day job' but still acutely interested in all the goings on in his old world: he was both scathing and perplexed when TfL first announced there'd be no more bus maps. It would never have happened under the 'old guard' of Hendy and Daniels, but then they knew a few things about bus operation, not a charge that could be levelled against the present incumbents.In what way is that a "philosophy"? It's a fact that many passengers' needs aren't met by point-to-point digital itineraries.
Much prefer the 1960's maps....when I find them, Tube and Bus Routes.Why would you need to buy off ebay, especially if you are from London?
I'm sure if you require a copy for collection, there will be plenty of people willing to help send you a copy if you ask on the forum. Even offering to cover their postage won't cost more than £1.
TfL may also send you a copy if you ask the helpline.
I love collecting the little pocket maps. Just seen the latest on ebay for a couple of quids with the new wiggle extension! Anyone else like a kid at Christmas?! Haha
You missed out! There is a bus map online, but you can explore Genoa quite well from the main railway line (approx 4tph across th city from East to West), the (tiny) metro and the variety of fascinating lifts and funiculars. Enough to keep any transport nerd happy for at least a week. And don't forget the narrow-gauge line into the hills from Piazza Menin. [apology for going off-topic but I couldn't resist](Which I understood: a few years ago the lack of a local bus map caused me to leave Genoa after only one day, and spend extra time elsewhere in Liguria.)
You missed out! There is a bus map online, but you can explore Genoa quite well from the main railway line (approx 4tph across th city from East to West), the (tiny) metro and the variety of fascinating lifts and funiculars. Enough to keep any transport nerd happy for at least a week. And don't forget the narrow-gauge line into the hills from Piazza Menin. [apology for going off-topic but I couldn't resist]