2118 Newcastle-Carlisle violence 8/8/15

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  1. 175001

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVNwW4jKeOk

    One of 6 short videos of violence breaking out on the infamous 2118 out of Newcastle

    despicable behavior

    Guard was assaulted too according to the uploader, my thoughts go out to him, his driver and the innocent passengers who were indirectly involved in this.
     
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  3. misterredmist

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    Oh dear , low life....... hopefully nobody was badly hurt and may be CCTV can sort the wheat from the chaff....
     
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    Why is it "infamous"? 2118 doesnt seem that late for a so called "party train".
     
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    It is the last train on a Saturday night to serve stations out west of Prudhoe towards Carlisle.

    The north east of England has little in the way of late evening rail services.
     
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    All those farmers that can't handle their drink :D
     
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    Would it be an idea, for the safety of staff and innocent passengers, that we have a system to breathalyse people before being allowed on board.
     
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    No absolutely not. I can have plenty to drink, fail a breathalyzer test but I'd be absolutely no trouble at all on a train. Not everyone who drinks then travels by train is a problem.
     
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    Indeed. I'd just prefer that anyone who gets violent or disorderly from drink (whether on a train or otherwise) is, as a minimum, chucked in the cells overnight without fail. They may eventually get the idea then.
     
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    Don't include that in your new railway! :razz:
     
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    Unfortunately there's no test to distinguish the "happy drunk" from the "angry drunk"...

    There may be a use for 142s after 2020 though: couple one to the back of the better unit that runs the late-night service, patrolled by a BTP officer who is built like a brick outhouse. Anyone who fails the breathalyser goes on the Pacer, those who are sober get to travel in relative comfort... ;)
     
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    The 2150 is another 'fun' train as it's the last Newcastle to Darlington/Thornaby/Middlesbrough service so on a Saturday night is often very rowdy. The one time I've done it myself the guard kept themselves locked away in middle of the train (it was formed of two 156s) and I don't blame them at all! Would have been nice if they'd invited those of us that were sober to join them mind you :lol:
     
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    They originally made the 2118 booze free, so folk started getting the 1920, which in turn became booze free too. The actions of the minority ruin it for all as usual.

    It's the same on the last West Cumbrian train from Carlisle on a Saturday!

    On a wider theme, the 2 Car 142's are woefully inadequate for the volume of traffic on the Tyne Valley line on a weekend!
     
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    BTP are appealing for witnesses

    media.btp.police.uk/r/11884/appeal_for_witnesses_after_fight_on_newcastle_to_
     
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    People behaving so badly would not be allowed on a bus. They would end up in prison if they did that on an aeroplane. I suppose the issue with trains is that the police are not in a position to attend the train when it stops at the next station.
     
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    The last train on a Saturday night from Carlisle to Dumfries has also had its share of problems for a number of years
     
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