22:50 Euston to Manchester

[JamesM]

Guys,

Any idea why the 22:50 Virgin Train from Euston to Manchester Piccadilly takes such a long time? I will be going to Stoke this week - can't see any engineering works or anything.

Is it because I will be using the slow lines or something like that, or maybe we're going via Birmingham?

It also seems to be to set down only, is that so that if it gets to stations early, it can continue on early?

Thanks,

James

 

[CallySleeper]

Booked slow lines as far as Hanslope Junction plus a total of 66 minutes of allowances.

No diversions. Re: set down, yes probably.

 

[SeanG]

http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/Y87255/2014-02-17

This may help

 

[JamesM]

Thanks for the reply CallySleeper - forgive my ignorance as someone who doesn't work in the industry - what are 66 minutes of allowances? Is that in case it gets delayed for some reason with ad hoc late engineering works etc? So if all goes well, I could arrive upto an hour early?

Thanks

 

[The Planner]

Basically it allows for every conceivable piece of engineering work and diversion along the route happening at once. 99 times out of 100 this will arrive early.

 

[Crossover]

I guess the main one is via Northampton? Possibly via Birmingham too

 

[Searle]

www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y87256/2014/02/11/advanced

An example of when it's run early :P

 

[calc7]

www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y87256/2014/02/11/advanced

An example of when it's run early :P

Still taking almost 3 hours, though!

 

[merlodlliw]

Am I correct in thinking this is a new train via Stoke since last timetable or so,the last down from Euston used to be 2200 via Crewe to Manchester,now the 2200 terminates at Crewe,if I recall.

 

[Welshman]

www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y87256/2014/02/11/advanced

An example of when it's run early :P

Looks like VT's equivalent of the 2330 Kings Cross-Leeds!

 

[dk1]

Am I correct in thinking this is a new train via Stoke since last timetable or so,the last down from Euston used to be 2200 via Crewe to Manchester,now the 2200 terminates at Crewe,if I recall.

Yes & i think you will find the 22.00 is now formed by a single Voyager.

 

[Jeni]

Am I correct in thinking this is a new train via Stoke since last timetable or so,the last down from Euston used to be 2200 via Crewe to Manchester,now the 2200 terminates at Crewe,if I recall.

That's annoying, so Rugby has now lost its only direct service to Manc? That used to be a useful service to me!

 

[Deerfold]

This train has come up a couple of times recently...

http://railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=94038

http://railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1589553&postcount=95 (and later discussion)

That's annoying, so Rugby has now lost its only direct service to Manc? That used to be a useful service to me!

There's the 2318 on a Sunday.

 

[greatkingrat]

www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y87256/2014/02/11/advanced

An example of when it's run early :P

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y87256/2014/02/14/advanced

And an example of when it's run late, despite all the recovery time!

 

[dannypye9999]

I was told a few weeks back that this service becomes discontinued from May and the last two Euston to Wolverhampton service continue to Manchester, but just a rumour cant see it anywhere on OTT.

 

[JamesM]

00:38 - Still near Rugby!