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Today there were at least two 350's running around with smashed windows. I assume it was due to stone throwing? Are they safe to be in service with just tape around them?
 
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Today there were at least two 350's running around with smashed windows. I assume it was due to stone throwing? Are they safe to be in service with just tape around them?
As long as staff have made them them safe, it's fine to run around like that.

On the 377's here two parts to the windows and it's he inner part that's important. Assume it won be too different with a Desiro either.

Seems like in this case staff have dealt with the units and attended to any possible issues.
 

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Broken windows are a hazard of the railways but each TOC will have it's own documented procedures for dealing with them, it's perfectly safe provided only the outer skin is damaged.
 

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I came across a vid on Youtube showing a plastic pig with cardboard windows where they had obviously been bricked in and i'm pretty sure it was in normal passenger service
 

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Had an instance in the late 90's where a stone/brick completely smashed a window on a 4-CIG approaching Ashford from London. People were covered in glass but projectile did not enter. Someone made to pull the cord but I managed to stop him as we were within 20 secs of stopping in platform 3 (as it was then). After alerting staff and removing glass bits from the hair of the worst affected passengers, the carriage was cleared of people and locked out of use. The train then continued. I was told I could go, so was not sure if BTP were summoned and statements taken.

Found out next day that this happened now and then (footbridge from town to residential area 1/4 mile west of station).
 

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As above, if the outer pane has smashed the train can remain in service until the end of that diagram
The remaining inner pane has to be marked and secured just in case it is smashed later

If both panes have smashed the train can continue at a reduced speed, with all passengers temporarily evacuated from the affected carriage
At the next possible station the train will either be taken out of service or a temporary window fitted

Smashed windows can also be caused by loose ballast, and it seems to happen quite often to LM units
 

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In the late 70s/ early 80s I frequently saw trains I was travelling on being targetted by stone throwers. (I remember it happening five times in six journeys through the Longbridge area of Birmingham).

Nowadays I very, very rarely encounter it.

Is this a genuine trend, or just my luck?
 

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It does still happen unfortunately, Dagenham Dock - Rainham seems to be quite a hotspot with the kiddies.
 

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In the late 70s/ early 80s I frequently saw trains I was travelling on being targetted by stone throwers
Changed days, as a young person would normally live outside whenever possible; now they live indoors whenever possible
Equally, there are greater barriers and separation between the public and trains now, along with CCTV footage and other deterents
 

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On northerns pacers they have a layer of clear plastic sheet, this is anti grafitti but it should also reduce the possibility of debris entering the saloon in the event of someone trying to smash a single glazed window
 

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On northerns pacers they have a layer of clear plastic sheet, this is anti grafitti but it should also reduce the possibility of debris entering the saloon in the event of someone trying to smash a single glazed window
Probably would keep all the smashed glass together, rather than scattered, but probably wouldn't prevent the brick/stone etc from getting through.
 

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The railways are already very safe, and the chances of either an accident or someone hoying a brick through a window are very low. I'd rather have a larger window to look out of, knowing that.
 

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A guy on my uni course got hit in the face by a half brick thrown through a train window. IIRC it was through an open droplight on an HST just north of Sheffield station. He had to have fair amount of surgery
 

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I meant to write to go through it.. Anyway, bad joke - made worse by writing it wrong! - so let's move on. I don't think any of us want to turn this into yet another Pendolino window thread. :)
 

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On Friday io seen a 350 departing LSP to Brum around 4:15pm with one window taped up.

In 1984 i was at primary school then, & we were on a School trip from Liverpool to London for a couple of days, going on a Sunday, & the train we were on got a window bricked around where the line goes passed Spaghetti Junction[one of the diversion routes used on Sundays].
 

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^^^^^^^^^

If you're going to quote Eric Morecambe in big red letters at the bottom of every post, could you at least quote him correctly?

The word you're looking for is "necessarily".
 

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I was on A stock 5118 arriving into Chesham station one evening, and two stones got thrown from the footbridge outside the station, one hitting my window on 5118 and ther other hitting another window in 6118 (trailer car behind 5118). Luckily all A stock windows are graffiti filmed so it all stayed in one piece.
 

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Had an instance in the late 90's where a stone/brick completely smashed a window on a 4-CIG approaching Ashford from London. People were covered in glass but projectile did not enter. Someone made to pull the cord but I managed to stop him as we were within 20 secs of stopping in platform 3 (as it was then). After alerting staff and removing glass bits from the hair of the worst affected passengers, the carriage was cleared of people and locked out of use. The train then continued. I was told I could go, so was not sure if BTP were summoned and statements taken.

Found out next day that this happened now and then (footbridge from town to residential area 1/4 mile west of station).

^^^^ Repton Bridge by any chance it happened the other day on an Ashford International Bound service from London Victoria. as train terminated at AFK it was taken out of servica and replaced for the return leg.
 
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