4-PEP info

[03_179]

Hi all,

Had a bit of a memory boost just now.

I remember seeing a 4-PEP unit at Clapham Yard (more than one if I remember rightly) over the years.

Can anyone give me a few bits of information on the units.

Class was 445 ?
When were they withdrawn?
Were both 4002 and 4001 stored at Clapham Junction?
When were the units moved?
What happened to them?

Thanks in advance.

 

[randyrippley]

Every time I saw any of the PEPs parked up they were at Wimbledon. The 2-car set appeared to have been dumped there for over a year, presumably after withdrawal

have you read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Classes_445_and_446 ?
Brief details there

 

[Journeyman]

The PEP at Clapham was the one in experimental livery, and was there for years - I could see it regularly when I was a kid. I did get on board it once during some (completely unauthorised) shed-bunking at Strawberry Hill, where it resided briefly before scrapping (sometime in the mid to late 80s). Really wish I'd had a camera, and also wish I'd taken some of the documentation scattered about on the floor - there were loads of circuit diagrams and stuff.

 

[03_179]

Thanks all for the info.
Been in Manchester all day so first chance I've had to look properly.

I remember seejng them in the 80s.
I even had a photo on slide of it but can't locate it.

In June of 88 I was working for BR and used to see it when passing through.
I've marked it as seen on 1/6/1988 (although I saw them a lot more)

They looked awesome gar better than a 455 !!

 

[delt1c]

1st time i saw the 2PEP was when it had an additional coach added and was running on North Clyde in Glasgow, imagine my surprise to this aluminium unpainted unit with painted center car whilst traveling in a Mk1 compartment 27 hauled to Oban. didnt have my camera ready but that image will be permanently engraved in me

 

[Journeyman]

1st time i saw the 2PEP was when it had an additional coach added and was running on North Clyde in Glasgow, imagine my surprise to this aluminium unpainted unit with painted center car whilst traveling in a Mk1 compartment 27 hauled to Oban. didnt have my camera ready but that image will be permanently engraved in me

Yup, it's the beast that spawned the 313. The centre vehicle was effectively the first production-style vehicle, as it had the two-door bodyshell rather than the three-door one the PEPs had.

 

[03_179]

Looks wise the 4PEP looks better than any of the new stock now

 

[Journeyman]

Looks wise the 4PEP looks better than any of the new stock now

It was certainly quite handsome, but the interiors were pretty horrible!

 

[delt1c]

Looks wise the 4PEP looks better than any of the new stock now

The slope to the cab front and the non opening windows really gave it style. The Blue trains in Glasgow (303's) were stylish when intoduced ( and stylish when withdrawn) but the PEP was something completely new and inovative

 

[Journeyman]

The slope to the cab front and the non opening windows really gave it style. The Blue trains in Glasgow (303's) were stylish when intoduced ( and stylish when withdrawn) but the PEP was something completely new and inovative

True, the 303 was certainly quite modern looking, but was unmistakably Mark 1-based, with a lot of traditional features. Only ten years on from that, the PEP was radically different and pointed to the future.