4001’s new livery

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Hi everyone!

It has recently been announced that 4001 is to go into a new livery, replacing the drab grey livery DB gave it a few years ago.

Does that mean it’s going back into PTE cadmium, or is it a new livery specifically about 40 years of Metro?

thanks!
 
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Hi everyone!

It has recently been announced that 4001 is to go into a new livery, replacing the drab grey livery DB gave it a few years ago.

Does that mean it’s going back into PTE cadmium, or is it a new livery specifically about 40 years of Metro?

thanks!
Not sure where you've heard this? 4001 is currently undergoing RVAR upgrades in the depot.
 

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It’s been announced on the Facebook photography group by a Metro staff individual and there has also been apparently photos taken of it somewhere.
I can safely say it's still in the refurbished colour scheme of black/grey and is sitting in the depot undergoing the RVAR upgrades. Got a link to said post?
 

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Problem is, if I turn up with a camera, the staff will descend on me like a pack of starving hayenas. The T&W Metro loves filming people with its CCTV cameras but hates people filming their trains with their own cameras!
 

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Problem is, if I turn up with a camera, the staff will descend on me like a pack of starving hayenas. The T&W Metro loves filming people with its CCTV cameras but hates people filming their trains with their own cameras!
Whilst I have full permission for photography and videography and know quite a few members of staff, I still sometimes get a staff member shouting their head off at me for filming/taking pictures, it’s once been taken to such a level that I was questioned for being at Palmersville Foot Crossing, safely behind the gate, as I was “standing in a dangerous place”. Thankfully I have been told there are some changes coming to the policy on photography soon, hopefully for the better too.
 

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Whilst I have full permission for photography and videography and know quite a few members of staff, I still sometimes get a staff member shouting their head off at me for filming/taking pictures, it’s once been taken to such a level that I was questioned for being at Palmersville Foot Crossing, safely behind the gate, as I was “standing in a dangerous place”. Thankfully I have been told there are some changes coming to the policy on photography soon, hopefully for the better too.
Glad to hear this, the setup there is bordering on paranoid neurosis.
If London Underground, who have *actually* been on the receiving end of terror attacks, can essentially allow unrestricted photography (subject to basic safety provisions), then I can’t see any reason for their to be an issue on T&W.
 

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Problem is, if I turn up with a camera, the staff will descend on me like a pack of starving hayenas. The T&W Metro loves filming people with its CCTV cameras but hates people filming their trains with their own cameras!
Can’t help but smile at the suggestion of packs of staff. The drivers don’t really seem to care, and apart from at a couple of the bigger stations they’re the only staff who will be regularly encountered. Maybe they’re bothered about the reputational damage if photos emerge of the groups of smackheads doing their thing on certain stations?! Priorities...
 

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Can’t help but smile at the suggestion of packs of staff. The drivers don’t really seem to care, and apart from at a couple of the bigger stations they’re the only staff who will be regularly encountered. Maybe they’re bothered about the reputational damage if photos emerge of the groups of smackheads doing their thing on certain stations?! Priorities...
What I have never understood is whenever I’m at Pelaw and staff are there (which has mostly not been the case for 2 years now but you can still see a few once or twice a month) there is always some kids sitting over the platform edge, or not buying tickets, etc. They don’t seem to care. But when I take out my little bridge camera and start taking photos of trains the staff seem to swarm and question what I am doing, with no regard to the kids misusing the system.
 

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What I have never understood is whenever I’m at Pelaw and staff are there (which has mostly not been the case for 2 years now but you can still see a few once or twice a month) there is always some kids sitting over the platform edge, or not buying tickets, etc. They don’t seem to care. But when I take out my little bridge camera and start taking photos of trains the staff seem to swarm and question what I am doing, with no regard to the kids misusing the system.
Simple explanation - one of those is likely to give a gob full of abuse, whilst the other probably won’t.

If there was a risk of conflict with photographers then they wouldn’t do it, being as many of the stations are pretty isolated with little in the way of places of safety should things turn nasty.
 

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Now tell me what do you guys think of that livery? It looks...different.View attachment 71941
Being very pedantic but they missed the green livery out but very smart(until they add the doors) , be interesting what colour doors they will use for the PTE livery end as I would Imagine they would have to be contrasting to the rest of the body work.
 

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Not far off at all I don't think, but the peak short services are cancelled for the forseeable future, so none of the unrefurbished cars are likely to be used for some time
 

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Not far off at all I don't think, but the peak short services are cancelled for the forseeable future, so none of the unrefurbished cars are likely to be used for some time
Further service reductions will occur in the coming day or two. An emergency timetable is being produced for Friday.
 

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Official photos out on the Facebook page.

Does anyone know what RVAR upgrades it's has, as it's still got those old non-compliant door buttons?
 

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Contrasting flooring, larger wheelchair space in the middle of the unit, and white doors which contrasts with the grey interior but obviously does not contrast with the door buttons.

Apparently Nexus tried but could not secure a button type for the prototypes, I had thought for a moment why not paint the buttons black but obviously that would not contrast with the push button itself so try to make the best out of the situation.

I do hope that livery can survive any graffiti attacks as I suspect its a Vinyl livery. I seemed to recall the 'POP' livery being ruined by the stuff that is used to remove graffiti.
 

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Well I mean more when it's in the sidings whilst out on the system, im sure initially they probably will ask drivers to keep an eye out for taggers.
They don't generally get tagged in daylight, it's usually always when it's dark so they can't be seen
 

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Great to see this but I feel that the end of the cadmium end could be all yellow, the first passenger door on the same end coud be reqorked, and perhaps some green could be introduced in the middle.
 

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Going by a selfie taken by Mr Hughes, and uploaded to the Metro Facebook page, it would seem 4001 has been in service this morning.
 

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Great to see this but I feel that the end of the cadmium end could be all yellow, the first passenger door on the same end coud be reqorked, and perhaps some green could be introduced in the middle.
The green was my first thought, perhaps it would look too compressed if they tried to fit it all in. But maybe in hindsight they could have had different schemes on either side, it’s not as if anyone can see both at the same time...
 

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