4O05, 07:15 Birch Coppice Freightliner to Southampton M.C.T derailed at Eastleigh (28/01)

[swt_passenger]

The advice for SWR on NRES as of 1215 on Sunday afternoon, seems to have merged what’s going on today, with what’s probably happening tomorrow. Not much help:

• Trains towards Southampton Central will be unable to call at Eastleigh. Customers should circulate via Southampton Airport Parkway
• Trains from Romsey to Salisbury via Chandlers Ford will also be unable to call at Eastleigh
• There will also be some additional peak time services that will also be unable to call at Eastleigh, or may be cancelled throughout
• Trains between London Waterloo and Weymouth may be cancelled, or will be diverted via Fareham extending journey times by up to 60 minutes
• Trains between London Waterloo and Poole will run between London Waterloo and Southampton Central
• Trains between London Waterloo and Portsmouth via Botley will not run
• A shuttle train service will run between Winchester and Basingstoke
• Romsey circular services via Eastleigh and Southampton will be cancelled
• A shuttle train service will run between Basingstoke and Winchester, calling at Micheldever

Then meanwhile, at 1220, RTT shows a pretty normal timetable through Eastleigh after 1430 today. Is this because a major update to the underlying data hasn’t filtered through yet?

 

[spark001uk]

The advice for SWR on NRES as of 1215 on Sunday afternoon, seems to have merged what’s going on today, with what’s probably happening tomorrow. Not much help:


Then meanwhile, at 1220, RTT shows a pretty normal timetable through Eastleigh after 1430 today. Is this because a major update to the underlying data hasn’t filtered through yet?

The normal workings are still there, but they are getting cancelled/revised as the day goes on. There's still a block in place at Eastleigh so nothing is going through yet.

 

[swt_passenger]

The normal workings are still there, but they are getting cancelled/revised as the day goes on. There's still a block in place at Eastleigh so nothing is going through yet.

Yes, the question was pretty much rhetorical. I was surprised they hadn't knocked out all the normal services in one go. Seems to be done between 2 and 3 hours before departure from origin?

 

[spark001uk]

Yes, the question was pretty much rhetorical. I was surprised they hadn't knocked out all the normal services in one go. Seems to be done between 2 and 3 hours before departure from origin?

At least it's not as bad as the Trainline, a site in which the public place their trust; was in a bit of a state yesterday (see my post/image on last page). We in the know could spot the problem with that immediately, but for the majority of travelling public that was very misleading, and could have seen them further delayed.

 

[TEW]

(Although I did also have a pair of 455s towards Haslemere which was extremely unexpected)

They managed to do 4 round trips, which is certainly very unusual.

 

[Wychwood93]

TRAKSY now shows that the T3 possession has been lifted. Platform 2 out of use until further notice and the 450 stuck in platform 3 in now out and currently approaching Shawford on the up main, running as the 5Z50. The timetable for tomorrow appears to reflect how things will be for a while - nothing stopping at Eastleigh on the down towards Southampton.

 

[spark001uk]

5Z50 looks to be a test working, looking at it it's booked over the repaired piece of the DF shortly, and a couple of trips up and down p3 as well by the looks. Damage to the slip out of p3 must have been relatively minor then.

A 158 has just dropped into p3 on a round trip from Salisbury as well. 5Z51.

 

[swt_passenger]

5Z50 looks to be a test working, looking at it it's booked over the repaired piece of the DF shortly, and a couple of trips up and down p3 as well by the looks.

It’s certainly covering a wide area isn’t it, Winchester, Fareham, Southampton and all points between. There’s also a 5Z51 running back and forth a couple of times via Chandlers Ford, using a 159?
Are 5Zxx typical test train headcodes in such circumstances?

 

[theironroad]

It’s certainly covering a wide area isn’t it, Winchester, Fareham, Southampton and all points between. There’s also a 5Z51 running back and forth a couple of times via Chandlers Ford, using a 159?
Are 5Zxx typical test train headcodes in such circumstances?

5Zxx could be used as unplanned, short notice ECS special. It's really just proving track and signals by sound of it just like during snow and ice trains are sent out as proving trains.

 

[swt_passenger]

National Rail enquiries now showing alterations expected until 29th Feb, 4 weeks hence...

 

[theironroad]

National Rail enquiries now showing alterations expected until 29th Feb, 4 weeks hence...

If all works tomorrow, the only alterations really will be trains coming from the Winchester or Romsey directions going to Southampton airport can't stop at Eastleigh. They'll be fine on the up line. People for Eastleigh just need to get the Pompey. I'd guess that over 90% of passengers will b back to normal tomorrow.

 

[swt_passenger]

5Zxx could be used as unplanned, short notice ECS special. It's really just proving track and signals by sound of it just like during snow and ice trains are sent out as proving trains.

Ah right, so between the two trains they’re proving the entire area that’s been out of normal use since Wednesday, (even though the Botley line must have seen all those XC ECS anyway)...

 

[theironroad]

Ah right, so between the two trains they’re proving the entire area that’s been out of normal use since Wednesday, (even though the Botley line must have seen all those XC ECS anyway)...

I'm guessing so, they probabky just want to make sure there will be no unexpected surprises with signalling repairs. Using Winchester (Baltic siding) /Fareham (bay) Southampton central (any platform) may just be more convenient for them for the driver to change ends and start next bit on regular signalling rather than doing mainline shunts in odd places.

 

[pompeyfan]

Ah right, so between the two trains they’re proving the entire area that’s been out of normal use since Wednesday, (even though the Botley line must have seen all those XC ECS anyway)...

perhaps it’s easier to just use fareham instead of asking the driver to shunt at Botley or Eastleigh South?

 

[swt_passenger]

I'm guessing so, they probabky just want to make sure there will be no unexpected surprises with signalling repairs. Using Winchester (Baltic siding) /Fareham (bay) Southampton central (any platform) may just be more convenient for them for the driver to change ends and start next bit on regular signalling rather than doing mainline shunts in odd places.

perhaps it’s easier to just use fareham instead of asking the driver to shunt at Botley or Eastleigh South?

thanks to both.

 

[Class1]

The SWR disruption page doesn't give any details about travelling from Eastleigh towards Southampton. Does anyone know what the plan is? Are they running a bus to the airport?

 

[pompeyfan]

The SWR disruption page doesn't give any details about travelling from Eastleigh towards Southampton. Does anyone know what the plan is? Are they running a bus to the airport?

there doesn’t appear to be buses, suspect advice is to circulate via Winchester.

 

[spark001uk]

RTT tomorrow shows clockwise Romseys running, using the DF. I assume the test trip into p3 tonight was just a suitable place for changing ends rather than running right down to soton?

 

[swt_passenger]

RTT tomorrow shows clockwise Romseys running, using the DF. I assume the test trip into p3 tonight was just a suitable place for changing ends rather than running right down to soton?

Yes, with the points clipped for the line towards Botley, Works or Depot trains cannot get to Southampton from P3.

 

[spark001uk]

Yes, with the points clipped for the line towards Botley, Works or Depot trains cannot get to Southampton from P3.

Indeed. Assume anything from depot to Soton will now go thru 3 and shunt to DF to the north? Or shunt behind the Romsey jn?

 

[theironroad]

there doesn’t appear to be buses, suspect advice is to circulate via Winchester.

Advice on SWR journey check at 1956 (after your post) suggests their are buses:

2 X bph BSK to SOU calling at mich, winch, shawford, Eastleigh, airport,
4 X bph BSK to SOU calling at winch, Eastleigh
2 X bph ESL to FRM calling at hedge , botley
1 X bph Romsey to SOU calling at chandler's, Eastleigh, airport, swaythling, st Denys

All details including northbound on SWR journey check page.

 

[swt_passenger]

Indeed. Assume anything from depot to Soton will now go thru 3 and shunt to DF to the north? Or shunt behind the Romsey jn?

Not sure, but whatever they intend will be quite time consuming in amongst the rest of the down main traffic. Will be watching tomorrow with interest...

 

[pompeyfan]

Advice on SWR journey check at 1956 (after your post) suggests their are buses:

2 X bph BSK to SOU calling at mich, winch, shawford, Eastleigh, airport,
4 X bph BSK to SOU calling at winch, Eastleigh
2 X bph ESL to FRM calling at hedge , botley
1 X bph Romsey to SOU calling at chandler's, Eastleigh, airport, swaythling, st Denys

All details including northbound on SWR journey check page.

I believe those buses are today and not going forward from tomorrow onwards.

 

[swt_passenger]

Advice on SWR journey check at 1956 (after your post) suggests their are buses:

2 X bph BSK to SOU calling at mich, winch, shawford, Eastleigh, airport,
4 X bph BSK to SOU calling at winch, Eastleigh
2 X bph ESL to FRM calling at hedge , botley
1 X bph Romsey to SOU calling at chandler's, Eastleigh, airport, swaythling, st Denys

All details including northbound on SWR journey check page.

I think the question was about lack of buses tomorrow to deal with the southbound passengers towards Parkway and beyond. I don’t think circulating via Winchester as Pompeyfan mentioned is very practical...

 

[theironroad]

I think the question was about lack of buses tomorrow to deal with the southbound passengers towards Parkway and beyond. I don’t think circulating via Winchester is very practical...

....and where have I mentioned circulating via Winchester?

 

[daveshah]

Nor does any kind of permission (formal easement or otherwise) seem to have been given yet to make going via Winchester allowed on a Eastleigh-Southampton Parkway/Central ticket.

 

[theironroad]

I believe those buses are today and not going forward from tomorrow onwards.

Well it's says Monday so who knows.....

 

[swt_passenger]

....and where have I mentioned circulating via Winchester?

You didn’t, it was @pompeyfan...

 

[theironroad]

You didn’t, it was pompeyfan...

Oh, ok. You quoted my post , not his but no worries.

 

[Class1]

I've had a reply from SWR on Facebook. They are running buses between Eastleigh and Southampton. Still no mention of them on the website though.