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"5 New TGV Lines"

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jopsuk

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It's good these are moving along. Would be good to see the Bordeaux-Dax-Hendaye plan reactivated
 

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Railway Gazette has a totally different report about the announcement on September 11 by Elizabeth Borne.
If anything, the policy is to spend money on the classic network rather than new lines.
https://www.railwaygazette.com/news...ogramme.html?sword_list[]=bordeaux&no_cache=1
The ministry statement also stresses that while its core focus is ‘everyday transport’, the government is not ‘in any way’ turning its back on ‘major new rail infrastructure projects between cities’. It endorses the conclusions of the Duron report that these should be taken forward ‘in a phased manner’ in line with other capacity enhancement works.
Further discussions are to be held with the regions to outline the delivery of priority schemes such as the Toulouse – Bordeaux high speed line. The government will also ‘honour its commitments at a European level’ to the planned new line between Lyon and Torino.

It's equivalent to setting Network Rail's budget for CP6 and CP7, with little detail agreed apart from writing off most of SNCF's accumulated infrastructure debt of €35 billion.
The aim of the statement is also to calm the protests at the reorganisation of SNCF, by committing future spending.
 

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The Local.fr said:
The French government has approved five new high speed TGV train lines as part of a plan which will see a whopping €13.4 billion invested in the country's transport infrastructure by 2023.
According to Transport Minister Elisabeth Borne this figure represents a 40 percent increase on the five-year period before French President Emmanuel Macron was elected.

The decision of where it was to be spent has been eagerly awaited since it was announced in January that the government would be investing €3 billion a year in improving the country's transport infrastructure.

The work will be staggered over time to avoid incurring large expenses immediately.

So where will the new lines run?

The new LGV (Lignes a Grande Vitesse) rail lines are set to run from:

Bordeaux-Toulouse

The main train stations in the two south west cities will also be developed and expanded to accommodate more passengers and more trains.

This upgrade means passengers will be able to travel from Paris to Toulouse in 3 hours 10 minutes in future rather than the current 4 hours and 15 minutes.

Montpellier-Perpignan

The Montpellier-Béziers section will be developed as a priority on this new line between the two cities on the Mediterranean coast in south west France. Presumably this will help speed up the TGV trains that link Paris and Gerona in northern Spain.

They currently have to slow down to a reduce speed once they pass Montpellier.

Marseille-Nice

The two cities on the Mediterranean coast could do with a high speed rail link up.

Paris-Le Havre

St Lazare station in Paris will be expanded as a first move to improve the line between Paris and the northern French port before the sections of the line between Paris and Mantes and then Mantes-Rouen will be upgraded to high speed lines.

CDG airport Roissy-Picardie

This will open improve access between the greater Paris region of Ile-de-France to the south of the northern Hauts-de-France region.

Passengers will be able to reach Paris Roissy-Charles de Gaulle train station from Chantilly, Creil, Pont-Sainte-Maxence, Clermont, Compiègne (Oise) and Amiens (Somme) on a direct train.

However before work begins on the new lines, the investments need to be integrated into a transport law which is set to be presented to parliament in October 2018 by the transport minister.

But these aren't the only changes set to hit France's much-lauded rail network.

Paris - Limoges line to be improved

The government has also sanctioned the upgrade of the Intercité (now called TET line) between Paris and Toulouse via Limoges.

All of the trains on the line will replaced by newer models and the lines upgraded which will cut 25 minutes off the journey time between Paris and Limoges.

Ouigo services from Gare de Lyon

The low-cost TGV service Ouigo is also set to grow its service and will start running services from Gare de Lyon in Paris to Marseille and the Côte d'Azur from December.

I'm curious, does this mean these lines will be completed by 2023 or does it mean they will be started by 2023?

I've been following the changes to the Paris - Barcelona route ever since using the route in 2012 (when it involved a change at Figures), back then the 14.07 Paris departure arrived in Barcelona at 21.45.
Shortly after we used the route, the High speed line from Figures to Barcelona opened, reducing the arrival time to the present 20.34. Another 20 mins will be saved when the Nimes-Montpellier by-pass is opened, giving an arrival time around 20.15(?).

When the Montpellier-Perpignan section is opened, does anyone know what further time saving will be made?
 

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A nonstop train should be ale to cover the 150km in a bit over 30 minutes, compared with 90 (one stop) now, so I would have thought 45 minutes.
 

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I'm curious, does this mean these lines will be completed by 2023 or does it mean they will be started by 2023?
It means nothing on this-just that an awful lot of money will be spent on rails-and it still has to be discussed how much, when and where-in which regions and on what lines. I assume some French politics will also come into this game-reward the Macron voting regions. I have no idea if they are currently working on these lines or not-if yes, then there is a fair chance it will be al ready by then.
incidentally I used the AVE Marseille, boarding at Montpellier-to Barca a week or 2 ago and it seemed to spend many long minutes at many stations along that French coast-got the feeling at least 15 mins could be cut off by some faster handling. In Perpignan it was near full. Even booked long time ago and at senior rate-cost more as my flights NL-MPL and back from BCN home.
The Montpellier Bypass is ready and now used by a whopping 4! TGV's/day per direction-for wich the hourly airport bus is diverted taking some 10 mins extra and a 30 mins citybusshuttle runs empty all day from a nearby tramstop. It also seems SNCF found it too costly to put staff there for selling tix. Its not quite another ''gare des betteraves'' (sugarbeets-the nickname for the Amiens halt) but in mostly empty land-with as such enough potential for many offices and hotels.
 
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