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91119: Returns to service and in Swallow livery too!

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MK4 vehicles use UIC connections for TDM and FDM so the RCH cable aren’t required for normal use. RCH cables can be used for TDM (as it is on 86/87/90s and MK3 DVTs) but not on MK4s. Removing RCH cables reduces interference potential on the TDM system (water ingress etc) it also has the benefit of tidying up the front of the loco.

The No 1 end flaps were sealed up prior to HGR - Heavy general repair (not mallard refurbishment - that was a rolling stock refurbishment on MK4s). It appeared at the time of HGR (when 91s became 91/1s) that the job of sealing the flaps appeared to have been strengthened, before HGR in was not uncommon to see the area damaged easily by bird strikes etc.

Presumably at the same time it was decided to use screened cables rather than the RCH lighting cables for TDM, due to as you say - issues with water. I think the Mk2f/Mk3s on the WCML were fitted with screened cables soon after the switch to push-pull working and introduction of the Mk3b DVTs, so early 90s.
 
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MK4 vehicles use UIC connections for TDM and FDM so the RCH cable aren’t required for normal use. RCH cables can be used for TDM (as it is on 86/87/90s and MK3 DVTs) but not on MK4s. Removing RCH cables reduces interference potential on the TDM system (water ingress etc) it also has the benefit of tidying up the front of the loco.

The No 1 end flaps were sealed up prior to HGR - Heavy general repair (not mallard refurbishment - that was a rolling stock refurbishment on MK4s). It appeared at the time of HGR (when 91s became 91/1s) that the job of sealing the flaps appeared to have been strengthened, before HGR in was not uncommon to see the area damaged easily by bird strikes etc.

Excellent piece of information Intercity91, thanks.
 

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I don't think it's as dated as some liveries, like lined maroon on Mk1s or two-tone green on diesels.
it's less the livery, more the way the way the livery emphasises the shape. I'm not saying it is bad- i Like it- but it very much dates the loco and livery
 
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91119 is on the following diagrams today:

06:20 Peterborough - Kings Cross
09:03 Kings Cross - Leeds
15:15 Leeds - Doncaster
16:15 Doncaster - Leeds
17:45 Leeds - Doncaster
18:43 Doncaster - Leeds
21:41 Doncaster - Newcastle
 

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Just a quick update for ya.

The 09:03 from kings on this has just passed st neots, running on time but is being dragged by a thunderbird unit
 

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It's being dragged via Lincoln on a planned diversion - nothing wrong with the loco!

Good to know.

Got the wrong end of the stick when the term Thunderbird was used.
 
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Today's workings

04:44 Newcastle - Kings Cross
09:00 Kings Cross - Edinburgh
14:00 Edinburgh - Kings Cross
19:03 Kings Cross - Leeds
 

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View attachment 55501 Hi
Just been through my old photo prints
And came across this taken at Doncaster
Can’t quite make the number out
Neil

when you create perfection, dont mess with the paint, speaking of which, whats wrong with a decent repaint these days, at least with a rubbing down of the body, corrosion can be sorted, instead of hidden under plastic....long term Paint is better...saying that the vinyls are pretty damned good on 019
 

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Todays (20/11/18) workings


1A07 0630 Bradford to Kings Cross

1S10 0930 Kings Cross to Edinburgh

1E21 1530 Edinburgh to Kings Cross

1D32 2033 Kings Cross to Leeds
 

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Todays (20/11/18) workings


1A07 0630 Bradford to Kings Cross

1S10 0930 Kings Cross to Edinburgh

1E21 1530 Edinburgh to Kings Cross

1D32 2033 Kings Cross to Leeds

Late arrival into London has seen it reallocated. I believe it is now forming 1D09 10:03 King's Cross to Leeds.
 

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Todays (20/11/18) workings


1A07 0630 Bradford to Kings Cross

1S10 0930 Kings Cross to Edinburgh

1E21 1530 Edinburgh to Kings Cross

1D32 2033 Kings Cross to Leeds

Change of plan

10:03 Kings Cross to Leeds
12:45 Leeds to Kings Cross
15:33 Kings Cross to Leeds
18:15 Leeds to Kings Cross
21:00 Kings Cross to Newcastle
 

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Got lucky on my commute from Shipley this morning as it rolled in on the 0630 Forster Square to Kings Cross.
 

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Diagrams for 91119 today are as follows:
06:30 Newcastle to London Kings Cross
10:06 London Kings Cross to Newark North Gate
11:56 Newark North Gate to London Kings Cross
14:30 London Kings Cross to Newcastle.

Presume its going to Heaton after finishing at Newcastle?
 

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Diagrams for 91119 today are as follows:
06:30 Newcastle to London Kings Cross
10:06 London Kings Cross to Newark North Gate
11:56 Newark North Gate to London Kings Cross
14:30 London Kings Cross to Newcastle.

Presume its going to Heaton after finishing at Newcastle?

Both Newark runs cancelled
 

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Revised runnings for 91119

11:33 King's Cross to Leeds
14:15 Leeds to King's Cross
17:00 King's Cross to Edinburgh
 

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Just left York southbound on 1E08. Arrives into Newark at 12:17 and Peterborough at 12:25 and Kings Cross at 13:37.
 

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it's less the livery, more the way the way the livery emphasises the shape. I'm not saying it is bad- i Like it- but it very much dates the loco and livery

I think it fits the shape perfectly, I don't think any other has fitted the lines just so.
 

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I may head out to the ECML today; does anyone know its diagram please?

The diversions are on today so 90% of the services to Kings Cross are HSTs only. Your best bet may be at Newark or York to see it.

I'm headed onto the only electric from Leeds today so if I see it I'll tell you.
 
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LNER on twitter saying that 91119 won’t be out today. Pretty unfortunate as it’s the only day I’m in Leeds
 

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91119 is on Leeds services all day today. Hopefully going to catch it at last!
 

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It was on the back of the 09.58 Wakefield - KX when I was in the multi storey car park earlier. Guess it’ll be getting to KX any time now
 
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