A bad morning on Southeastern

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Servere delays on all services through London Bridge largely due to heavy rain and flooding. Southeastern are pleading with passengers on twitter not to open the doors as it will only make the situation worse. Apparently passengers in the Greenwich area walked along the track and so the power had to be switched off.
 
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I know some will say people on that line always cause problems etc but it really would help to mitigate and reduce potential problems if such busy lines had more staff on board (never going to happen) and at stations (really should happen like it does on London Overground) to inform people what is happening. It wouldn't stop people doing stupid things but would reduce it.

Anyway, quite telling how many replies this thread got to the South West Trains one. Far more SWT passengers on this forum.
 

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Apparently passengers in the Greenwich area walked along the track and so the power had to be switched off.

This is extremely unlikely, but what if people opened the doors and stayed on the train? Networkers and 376's are not pleasant to be in during warm weather if they are not moving (no windows, no breeze).
 

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This is extremely unlikely, but what if people opened the doors and stayed on the train? Networkers and 376's are not pleasant to be in during warm weather if they are not moving (no windows, no breeze).

You would still need to switch off the power. Any open door would be considered a risk.
 

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You would still need to switch off the power. Any open door would be considered a risk.

And the train would be unable to move (no interlock)
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This is extremely unlikely, but what if people opened the doors and stayed on the train? Networkers and 376's are not pleasant to be in during warm weather if they are not moving (no windows, no breeze).

If the Southeastern networkers are the same as the GWR ones, a member of staff should be able to unlock the windows.
 

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I know some will say people on that line always cause problems etc but it really would help to mitigate and reduce potential problems if such busy lines had more staff on board (never going to happen) and at stations (really should happen like it does on London Overground) to inform people what is happening. It wouldn't stop people doing stupid things but would reduce it.

Anyway, quite telling how many replies this thread got to the South West Trains one. Far more SWT passengers on this forum.

I'm not sure more staff would have made any difference, if passengers are trapped for long enough they'll resort to some DIY.
 

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This is extremely unlikely, but what if people opened the doors and stayed on the train? Networkers and 376's are not pleasant to be in during warm weather if they are not moving (no windows, no breeze).

You would be having to put trust in the general public, as there is nowhere near enough staff to be able to guard every door. Not something I would be responsible for if some delightful member of the public decides that he/she has had enough of staying on the train and decides to jump off the train when the power is still on!
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And the train would be unable to move (no interlock)
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If the Southeastern networkers are the same as the GWR ones, a member of staff should be able to unlock the windows.

It's DOO. Chances of a driver walking through a train is pretty much zero. And windows do little on a stationary, packed train.
 

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And the train would be unable to move (no interlock)
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If the Southeastern networkers are the same as the GWR ones, a member of staff should be able to unlock the windows.

Southeastern networkers don't have air con so I'm pretty sure anybody can open the windows.
 

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376's have lockable windows and are frequently locked
 

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This is extremely unlikely, but what if people opened the doors and stayed on the train? Networkers and 376's are not pleasant to be in during warm weather if they are not moving (no windows, no breeze).

Why is it extremely unlikely? The willingness of passengers to egress from stationary trains is why "uncontrolled evacuation" has just been added to the rulebook.
 
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Why is it extremely unlikely? The willingness of passengers to egress from stationary trains is why "uncontrolled evacuation" has just been added to the rulebook.

It's extremely unlikely because passengers are not going to open the door and then stay on the train.

But a stationary 376 or a networker with open windows during warm weather is just the same as closing the windows - hot :lol:
 
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