A career as a signaller

BigRob21

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Folks, please don't be upset with the rejection emails. All it means is now just isn't the time and the role was not the right role for you. I'm sure your time will come if you just keep at it. The hardest part is applying and you have all done this. You should all be proud! keep your chin up and keep pushing. :)
 
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CK1

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I gave well balanced answers and took my time to think about the questions however they said I was a little generic. If all I need to do is personalise my responses better then I'm ready to go for the next one. I am proud to have got this far and whilst its bitterly disappointing now, if there's something better waiting in the wings then let's focus on that!
 

Burton5000

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No future ops position for me this time, gutted...good luck to everyone else
Had a rejection email for Futures.
Also just had rejection email, on reserve list apparently. Gutted.

Have you all asked for feedback?

I got rejected the day after my interview whereas all of you have had to wait so long :/. So either I did exceptionally badly or different LOMs have just worked to different time frames maybe?

Good luck to us all for next time though!
 

CK1

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Have you all asked for feedback?

I got rejected the day after my interview whereas all of you have had to wait so long :/. So either I did exceptionally badly or different LOMs have just worked to different time frames maybe?

Good luck to us all for next time though!
Yes I asked for feedback, there is an email link in your rejection email to ask for feedback
 

DavidYorkshire

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I'm on the reserve list also, apparently it's when you scored well enough to get a signaller job, but there isn't a job to give you yet...
So fingers crossed I guess
 

Burton5000

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Yes I asked for feedback, there is an email link in your rejection email to ask for feedback
Yes I know, I asked for feedback. When I replied it didn't show your previous response about your feedback. I am purely curious what the rejection criteria are
 

TLM

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Yes I asked for feedback, there is an email link in your rejection email to ask for feedback

It's a no for me. Have to say the forum has been an Invaluable source of information and help, thanks to all those replying to those in need of help. Just wasn't to be I guess, will keep an eye out but in current climate must focus on other things now. Oh and waiting for feedback, will drop by with update when it comes in.

Thanks all!
 

RedMum77

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Ok so here is the feedback I've just received.



"In terms of feedback, at this stage, the quality of candidates is very high and the difference between candidates was marginal.

The feedback we have on your application is:

Zoe was well prepared, relaxed, very open, well-spoken, asked questions and was very engaged.

We do feel that Zoe could have expanded her answers and made specific to the questions asked.

We will be looking for more signallers across the regions, including ones you've registered your interest for in the near future, for which you will be fast-tracked. Would you like me to message you as soon as they are live?

Thank you for your application please don't let it discourage you from future roles at Network Rail."

And I was worried I was talking TOO much during the interview!
 

CK1

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I didn't realise this ment you are on a reserve list as my feedback is very similar to yours all but 1 paragraph its the same...
 

bruebunny

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I really don't know where I'm going wrong. I've just received application rejection number 9. I got to do the recorded video interview once, but nothing further beyond that. Will the fact I don't have a driving license be being a detriment? It's something I will rectify the very second I got the role, I just haven't the funds to get me over that line just yet. I feel like my 69 questions are relatable, but I'm going to pull it apart and write it again for the next application. All just feels so nebulous and hard to grasp, as I just don't know where I stand and what the problem is with my application compared to others.
 

Davieo

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I really don't know where I'm going wrong. I've just received application rejection number 9. I got to do the recorded video interview once, but nothing further beyond that. Will the fact I don't have a driving license be being a detriment? It's something I will rectify the very second I got the role, I just haven't the funds to get me over that line just yet. I feel like my 69 questions are relatable, but I'm going to pull it apart and write it again for the next application. All just feels so nebulous and hard to grasp, as I just don't know where I stand and what the problem is with my application compared to others.

It's in the essential criteria part of the job advert that Network Rail require applicants with their own transport, so I'd imagine you not having a car/driving license would put you at a disadvantage. Bear in mind that they are relying on you to get to a signal box at all hours of the day in order to relieve the person on the previous shift. The risk is that signaller being relieved can only work beyond their shift for a certain amount of time due to health and safety, so the signal box becomes unmanned.. the trains stop running.. Network Rail pick up a huge fine. It has happened.
Good luck with your applications, there is a wealth of information in this forum regarding non-technical skills, life saving rules etc. Perseverance is key to getting your foot through the door.
 

Rockhopper

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The reserve list is just in case the winning candidate doesn't accept the offer or fails his/her medical or something like that. They will then offer it to the second place person and so on down the list.
Being offered a fast track route when another job comes up isn't really the same thing.
 

RedMum77

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The initial rejection email said I was on a reserve list and I needed to opt out if I did not want them to keep my details, the fast track bit was in a subsequent email. I guess the reserve thing is unlikely.


The reserve list is just in case the winning candidate doesn't accept the offer or fails his/her medical or something like that. They will then offer it to the second place person and so on down the list.
Being offered a fast track route when another job comes up isn't really the same thing.
 

Rockhopper

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Several people on here have reported they've been offered the job off the reserve list so it can happen! I've turned down jobs I've been offered in the past. The interview process is as much for you to see if you want to work for them as for them to see if they want you to work there.
 

RedMum77

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Yeah thats what was said in the subsequent email, so I'm not sure if they'd then upload the application at their end so it appears on my job portal? Just had another email confirming unsuccesful, wording below. I guess I should take the positives being as I have been self employed for almost 20 years and no interviews for all that time!

"It was a pleasure to e-meet you!



Thanks for your commitment to our Signalling Recruitment campaign - IRC2189511



The competition for this role was high and you’re within the pool of top scoring candidates. It was a tough decision to make as your skills and experience make you a good fit for the role, however we’re not going to be able to offer you a position for this particular cohort.



Please don’t be disheartened, we’ve been so impressed by your overall performance!



We’d really like to add your details to our reserve list in case a position does become available. For example, if someone withdraws their application we’ll contact you to make an offer and you won’t be required to re take the assessments."
 

cpn

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It's in the essential criteria part of the job advert that Network Rail require applicants with their own transport, so I'd imagine you not having a car/driving license would put you at a disadvantage. Bear in mind that they are relying on you to get to a signal box at all hours of the day in order to relieve the person on the previous shift.

Just to chip in that I don't drive (and have no intention of learning!), and I know at least two other working signallers who don't have licences either. So long as you've considered how you will be able to "reach your base day and night" (in my case - public transport, and minicabs when needed, paid for by myself; in your case - learning to drive as soon as you can afford to), then I should think most LOMs would be accommodating.

Good luck with future applications, @bruebunny!
 

TLM

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Yeah I got fast track feedback, nice not to have to go through the early parts of interviews if I do get fast tracked. Good to have, but not gonna hold my breath and if anything pops up in the vacancies I'll apply anyway.

Good luck all!
 

Davieo

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Just to chip in that I don't drive (and have no intention of learning!), and I know at least two other working signallers who don't have licences either. So long as you've considered how you will be able to "reach your base day and night" (in my case - public transport, and minicabs when needed, paid for by myself; in your case - learning to drive as soon as you can afford to), then I should think most LOMs would be accommodating.

Good luck with future applications, @bruebunny!

I know signallers who don't drive too. The point I was making is that if bruebunny is struggling to get to the interview stage, in answer to their question, it could well be a factor for them not getting through the papersift as its an essential criteria to have "your own transport". I can imagine when LOMs and recruitment are sifting the dozens of applications that they have for vacant roles at the moment, its an easy criteria to filter down applicants with.
 

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Yeah thats what was said in the subsequent email, so I'm not sure if they'd then upload the application at their end so it appears on my job portal? Just had another email confirming unsuccesful, wording below. I guess I should take the positives being as I have been self employed for almost 20 years and no interviews for all that time!

"It was a pleasure to e-meet you!



Thanks for your commitment to our Signalling Recruitment campaign - IRC2189511



The competition for this role was high and you’re within the pool of top scoring candidates. It was a tough decision to make as your skills and experience make you a good fit for the role, however we’re not going to be able to offer you a position for this particular cohort.



Please don’t be disheartened, we’ve been so impressed by your overall performance!



We’d really like to add your details to our reserve list in case a position does become available. For example, if someone withdraws their application we’ll contact you to make an offer and you won’t be required to re take the assessments."
Just to say I’m currently week 9 of IST at York after initially being reserve candidate, so don’t give up hope yet x
 

RedMum77

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Oh well done Amanda! I just have to hope that someone decides against taking a place I guess. Really want to do this after a really ****ty year (run a pub lol, enough said!)
 

craig1992

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I was part of the North East future ops couple of months ago. Intially I got the reserve email on the Wednesday then 2 days later on the Friday afternoon I recieved a call from recruitment offering me a role. So being a reserve isn't just a brush off like I thought intially. I'm due to start my role on 5th October. So fingers crossed for you all on the reserve list!
 

RedMum77

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Thanks Craig. I am not going to get my hopes up, and I did initially think it was a brush off but with others saying they didnt get the reserve email it seems not, but will keep fingers toes and everything else crossed!
 

jossh78

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It’s a no for me also on the future opportunities, absolutely gutted but will persevere and get there eventually.
Competiton must of been pretty fierce in the current climate.
 

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