A career as a signaller

Cleanshirt

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Evening all -

Been given as many different answers as people I have asked. If you Take HROP on a day you aren't booked on, what do you get?

The answers so far range from "nothing" to "a standard days pay". Even my roster clerks are giving different answers!

Cheers!
 
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This is often over complicated because of acronyms and confusion. Some of this you’ll know but to just explain it all for completeness…

Logically it is simpler -
Bank holidays should be an extra day off.

1) if you can just be booked off for the day rather than working (e.g. you are on training duties), you have had this extra day off, nothing is due.
2) If you are rostered Rest Day - you do not get the extra day off (as you are already off work). Therefore ou can choose either LROP = the extra day off to make up for it, or HROP = an extra day basic pay to make up for it
3) if you are rostered to work - you are owed time and a half for working a day the rest of the country is at home, plus either the extra day off (LROP) or an extra basic days pay (HROP)
4) if you are rest day working, you get the same as 3) above, plus the usual 25% uplift for RDW on top of either LROP or HROP.

Hope that helps someone!
 

Kinny999

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Long time lurker, soon to be in IST; posting again with a couple of questions that I'd be super appreciative of any info/advice regarding.

Optimahealth ; Has their website been a bit temperamental for anybody else over the last few weeks? I've got my in-person medical a week today on the 8th in Manchester and I've still been unable to complete the pre-medical questionnaire - to begin with, I could get right to the finish/save button where it would time out; but this last week the links I've been emailed immediately error out and suggest an IT issue at their end - I've spoken to their support and they've essentially said, don't worry, just keep trying and if it doesn't work you can fill it out on the day when you get there. I've asked them to respond to me by email just confirming this advice just to be on the safe side but ideally, I'd like to get it done ASAP even if NR is only bothered about the outcome.

On a bit of a side note is there anything likely to occur at the medical that's specific to NR - I've had regular stringent medical/ vetting checks over the last 5 years in my current role so I've no specific concerns regarding the medical but just a little twitchy as its ultimately the deciding factor and final hurdle as far as NR is concerned.

Many thanks for any advice/info anybody can provide.
 

KlichBate

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Long time lurker, soon to be in IST; posting again with a couple of questions that I'd be super appreciative of any info/advice regarding.

Optimahealth ; Has their website been a bit temperamental for anybody else over the last few weeks? I've got my in-person medical a week today on the 8th in Manchester and I've still been unable to complete the pre-medical questionnaire - to begin with, I could get right to the finish/save button where it would time out; but this last week the links I've been emailed immediately error out and suggest an IT issue at their end - I've spoken to their support and they've essentially said, don't worry, just keep trying and if it doesn't work you can fill it out on the day when you get there. I've asked them to respond to me by email just confirming this advice just to be on the safe side but ideally, I'd like to get it done ASAP even if NR is only bothered about the outcome.

On a bit of a side note is there anything likely to occur at the medical that's specific to NR - I've had regular stringent medical/ vetting checks over the last 5 years in my current role so I've no specific concerns regarding the medical but just a little twitchy as its ultimately the deciding factor and final hurdle as far as NR is concerned.

Many thanks for any advice/info anybody can provide.
I had my medical a few months ago and it was a vision test, colour blindness test, hearing test, height and weight, drug and alcohol test. Was told there was little to worry about other than failing the drug and alcohol test. Can't help with the website I'm afraid. If you are having regular stringent medicals this will be nothing out of the ordinary for you.
 
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Don’t let the website problems crank up your blood pressure! Normally the questions are looked over together (to see what you’ve said) at the start of the medical anyway, so having to answer them at the same time is no issue really, it might just take a little longer but certainly nothing to lose any sleep over.
 

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I had my medical a few months ago and it was a vision test, colour blindness test, hearing test, height and weight, drug and alcohol test. Was told there was little to worry about other than failing the drug and alcohol test. Can't help with the website I'm afraid. If you are having regular stringent medicals this will be nothing out of the ordinary for you.
At my last medical I also had to kneel down on the floor and then stand up without using my hands/arms. Not sure if that is a standard test though. I guess it's to assess a person's mobility.
 

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At my last medical I also had to kneel down on the floor and then stand up without using my hands/arms. Not sure if that is a standard test though. I guess it's to assess a person's mobility.
Had my medical in Birmingham today
Didn’t have to do any physical test - just standard

Sight , hearing, weight , height , medical history and drug alcohol test
 

Kinny999

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Had my medical in Birmingham today
Didn’t have to do any physical test - just standard

Sight , hearing, weight , height , medical history and drug alcohol test
@High Dyke @ShebQ , many thanks folks :) , think I perhaps panicked at it being 2 hours but I suppose that's time to go through everything at a less than break neck speed.
 

KieranG110

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Good Afternoon,

Does anyone know if you skip any of the application process if you've previously applied and made it through the application process but were unsuccessful?
I was put on a shortlist for my last application but another position has been advertised and I've applied. Will they later down the process notice that I have completed tests and interviews previously?

thanks in advance.
 

The Don

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Good Afternoon,

Does anyone know if you skip any of the application process if you've previously applied and made it through the application process but were unsuccessful?
I was put on a shortlist for my last application but another position has been advertised and I've applied. Will they later down the process notice that I have completed tests and interviews previously?

thanks in advance.
I know that others have been contacted by NR asking is they are happy with the other location and will do a motivational interview view only.
 

MaisDxx

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@High Dyke @ShebQ , many thanks folks :) , think I perhaps panicked at it being 2 hours but I suppose that's time to go through everything at a less than break neck speed.
hi! had my medical yesterday in liverpool, only took just under an hour, I think they say 2 hours because they offer optional questionnaires/help which would go within the 2 hours. It's completely fine and my clinician was fab with me and spoke positively of NR. now I just can't wait for August to start signalling school
 

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hi! had my medical yesterday in liverpool, only took just under an hour, I think they say 2 hours because they offer optional questionnaires/help which would go within the 2 hours. It's completely fine and my clinician was fab with me and spoke positively of NR. now I just can't wait for August to start signalling school
:D Jolly good.
 

Lock31243

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Hi all!

Been offered the G6 role in WM yesterday! Anyone else had any updates from their applications??
Hello all

New to this forum but found it really useful whilst going through the recruitment process.

ShebQ , I start in the G6 position at West Mids on July 4th , just wandered if you start on the same day ?
 

Signaller2be

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Hello all

New to this forum but found it really useful whilst going through the recruitment process.

ShebQ , I start in the G6 position at West Mids on July 4th , just wandered if you start on the same day ?
Congrats on your job offer !

Out of curiosity, do they email you or call you to let you know you’ve got the job ?
 

Lock31243

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Congrats on your job offer !

Out of curiosity, do they email you or call you to let you know you’ve got the job ?
They initially called me to verbally offer me the job pending medical , security checks etc etc.

Once all the checks were done I got an email saying congratulations , confirming start date and saying my line manager will call me before my first day and giving me my employee number.

I hope this helps :)
 

blake123

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As everyone is aware of the upcoming strike action for signallers. What payrise % do you think would be accepted i’m hearing people say nothing below 7%?
 

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If we can keep speculation to a minimum please. I am sure this will be discussed in detail in a dedicated thread once/if a pay offer is made.
 

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When you move to a new signalling position, I'm sure it always used to be that whilst training you would be paid at one grade below the job, e.g. if it was a grade 3 box you'd be paid grade 2 pay until you pass out. I'm moving from grade 1 (I've already completed IST) to grade 3 and in my offer it stated the following:

"While training, you will be paid on the basis of either the rate of pay and allowances associated with your previous position, or your previous basic rate of pay and the new allowances, whichever is the greater. Following completion of the training, flexibility premium will be paid at the appropriate rate for the role."

I take it this means I'll still be on my grade 1 pay as it's not a relief job so no allowances will apply (night shift, Sundays etc as training is Mon - Fri 9-5) so I'll be worse off?

Is this the same across England? I'm based in the North.
 

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When you move to a new signalling position, I'm sure it always used to be that whilst training you would be paid at one grade below the job, e.g. if it was a grade 3 box you'd be paid grade 2 pay until you pass out. I'm moving from grade 1 (I've already completed IST) to grade 3 and in my offer it stated the following:

"While training, you will be paid on the basis of either the rate of pay and allowances associated with your previous position, or your previous basic rate of pay and the new allowances, whichever is the greater. Following completion of the training, flexibility premium will be paid at the appropriate rate for the role."

I take it this means I'll still be on my grade 1 pay as it's not a relief job so no allowances will apply (night shift, Sundays etc as training is Mon - Fri 9-5) so I'll be worse off?

Is this the same across England? I'm based in the North.

Query this with your local RMT rep & recruitment. As far as I am aware the conditions of the Green Book (Available on the RMT website) still stand in respect to payments while training, which is generally one grade below, and the FP of the new role straight away.
 

HamSandwich

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Query this with your local RMT rep & recruitment. As far as I am aware the conditions of the Green Book (Available on the RMT website) still stand in respect to payments while training, which is generally one grade below, and the FP of the new role straight away.

Thank you, I'll do that :)
 

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