A trespassing enthusiast...

[Rugd1022]

Not only is this 'enthusiast' on the wrong side of the fence, he's also parked himself right next to a 'no refuge' sign.... anyone we know? Location is right next to the Up Slow at Cathiron just north of Rugby. As a railwayman it makes my blood boil, as an enthusiast it makes me quite sad...

 

[AlterEgo]

He looks really happy to be photographed, doesn't he? No doubt services will be cautioned because of this numpty.

 

[ANorthernGuard]

What a stupid person!

 

[anthony263]

stupid idiot, gives the rest of us with common sense a bad name

 

[Darandio]

Should be identified and prosecuted.

 

[Old Timer]

Not only is this 'enthusiast' on the wrong side of the fence, he's also parked himself right next to a 'no refuge' sign.... anyone we know? Location is right next to the Up Slow at Cathiron just north of Rugby. As a railwayman it makes my blood boil, as an enthusiast it makes me quite sad...

As Railway staff you do have the right to ask the person to leave.

Also as Railway staff, in observing such a situation you now have a duty of care to the said individual, which can be discharged by speaking with the Signalman, and agreeing a course of action.

This could be arranging for the all or some of the lines to be blocked whilst you go onto them to speak with the person - as I did about two years ago when I spotted a photographer hiding in bushes on a 125mph line with limited clearance and restricted visibility.

The BT Police on 0800 40 50 40 will always provide support to you either by BT or by Civil Police if you are concerned for your own safety.

 

[HST Power]

It's a shame that some people can't follow the signs because there are some really good locations on the lineside to stand and take photographs. Such behavior will do the decent rail photographers who are prepared to follow the regulations no favors. If he gets injured (you can see in the first photo that his camera is actually touching the track gravel) not only does he risk getting himself seriously injured, if not killed, he risks the enforcement of tighter laws on lineside photography, thus ruining it for fellow spotters who are prepared to be sensible when out indulging in their passion.

 

[SouthEastern-465]

It seems quite arrogant really, there aware of the law but still think they're allowed to do it.


I personally think they should arrest him for tresspass give him the the full fine for it and see if that echos the message across.

 

[AlterEgo]

I'm not sure what advantage he's even gaining from being lineside. It's for the sake of two feet after all.

 

[Rugd1022]

Old Timer - oh I'm fully aware of what should follow - I made a polite attempt to speak to this idiot but was met with a blank stare and nothing else. I rang the 'box when I got back to my car where I'd left my works mobile. People like this know they're in the wrong but they just don't care...:roll:

 

[GB]

There should be an article in every enthusiasts magazine called name and shame...maybe then people would think about such moronic actions!:roll:

 

[Greenback]

Yes, this numpty needs to be shown as widely as possible, so that everyone can see excatly what an idiot he is.

I;d start with RAIL magazine, they have run campaigns against trespass previously.

 

[anthony263]

There should be an article in every enthusiasts magazine called name and shame...maybe then people would think about such moronic actions!:roll:

Why not send that suggestion to the various railway magazines, that said would they be willing considering the person could seuw under human rights or some other rubbish

 

[bnm]

There should be an article in every enthusiasts magazine called name and shame...maybe then people would think about such moronic actions!:roll:

I agree. Perhaps the OP should send the photographs to the specialist press. Nigel Harris, editor of RAIL, has in the past been very vocal about lineside trespass by enthusiasts.

 

[Via Bank]

Why not send that suggestion to the various railway magazines, that said would they be willing considering the person could seuw under human rights or some other rubbish

The right to privacy does not extend to people photographed in the middle of a criminal act.

 

[the sniper]

What time/day was this Rugd?

 

[district]

This disgusts me. Just like those commuters who banked onto the track because they couldn't wait for a tresspasser to be cleared. Should be caught, arrested and fined.

 

[Darandio]

That would be quite grim to look at if a train just so happened to pull up next to one because of a delay, imagine the passenger's faces!

But I am allowed to look at such grim scenes every time I buy a packet of cigarettes.

 

[NightatLaira]

He looks like Frank Harper from the Football football factory

 

[Old Timer]

Old Timer - oh I'm fully aware of what should follow - I made a polite attempt to speak to this idiot but was met with a blank stare and nothing else. I rang the 'box when I got back to my car where I'd left my works mobile. People like this know they're in the wrong but they just don't care...:roll:

Yes, I appreciate that.

It was not directed at you, but rather as a general reminder to other staff who may not be fully up so speed, and those who dont work on the Railway.

Sorry if it appeared otherwise.

 

[truckman060473]

If this guy wanted to film here, why not just use a step ladder inside the fence. Surely you can get tripods that extend high enough to film without the fence getting into shot?

 

[Rugd1022]

Yes, I appreciate that.

It was not directed at you, but rather as a general reminder to other staff who may not be fully up so speed, and those who dont work on the Railway.

Sorry if it appeared otherwise.

Quite alright OT, no offence taken at all

The Sniper - it was around 10am this morning.

 

[the sniper]

The Sniper - it was around 10am this morning.

Thanks.

 

[185]

Fingers crossed if BTP get that photo and a date/time, it won't be the trains getting cautioned on Monday morning

 

[Aictos]

Should be identified and prosecuted.

Indeed and then have Network Rail charge this idiot with the bill for the delays caused by his idiotic behaviour.

It's a shame that some people can't follow the signs because there are some really good locations on the lineside to stand and take photographs. Such behavior will do the decent rail photographers who are prepared to follow the regulations no favors. If he gets injured (you can see in the first photo that his camera is actually touching the track gravel) not only does he risk getting himself seriously injured, if not killed, he risks the enforcement of tighter laws on lineside photography, thus ruining it for fellow spotters who are prepared to be sensible when out indulging in their passion.

I quite agree, well said

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I fully agree that he should be identified and charged. It is not as if he was taking hand-held shots, but had a tripod specifically positioned on the wrong side of the fence.

Incidentally, in the first thumbnail shot, is he inside two parallel fences?

 

[Bristol Rover]

Forgive my naivety, since given the unanimous (and outraged) condemnation of this guy, I must be missing something. I am not a trainspotter.

What exactly is wrong with standing there? How does standing one foot the wrong side of a fence put his life in mortal peril, as implied by a few of the posts on here?

If it is likely to cause major delays on the line (is it? I'm not in the industry so don't know), I can understand the outrage, but the outpouring of bile seems a little over the top to me!

 

[Darandio]

What exactly is wrong with standing there? How does standing one foot the wrong side of a fence put his life in mortal peril, as implied by a few of the posts on here?

What is right with it? If it's safe, why isn't the fence one foot closer to the line?

If it is likely to cause major delays on the line (is it? I'm not in the industry so don't know), I can understand the outrage, but the outpouring of bile seems a little over the top to me!

Of course it will cause delays, but I am sure someone with more knowledge can give you an interesting explanation.

 

[NightatLaira]

To be fair, people do this ALL THE TIME on the NYMR and Ffestiniog, and the driver's don't mind, in fact - they regularly toot photographers. I don't know if a preserved 'heritage' railway has different by-laws, but I'm sure someone who knows better will confirm.

I seem to remember a similar discussion not so long ago about the legality of photgraphing trains from the pedestrian swing gate styles on some level crossings. I think, if I remember the verdict correctly, there is nothing technically wrong with being inside a level crossing when a train is coming providing you do not attempt to cross the line whilst the sirens/barriers are on/down because the exact legal writ is 'do not cross the line' rather than 'do not be in the pedestrian style'. Someone will no doubt correct me if I'm mis-remembering etc...

 

[SouthEastern-465]

This tresspassing for the 'best shot' is really getting on my nerves now.

I speak for myself, when I say this seems to be a minority group who assume because they know about railways this gives them the knowledge to go down on to the track because they're enthusiasts they know better than the public, and they are the 'exception' so it gives them the right to.

I'm really not aiming this at all enthusiasts as I know the majority of us know the rules.

I am wondering if these shots are featured in railway magazines, and if so can they or anyone determine weather they are trespass shots and not publish them?