fat_boy_pete
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Norwich in just under 94. Not quite the same marketing phrase.
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Norwich in just under 94. Not quite the same marketing phrase.
we did our best, but the delays with 1N88 at Liverpool Street, sealed it's fate, although it left to time, caught up with the late runners. had it not caught 1A94 and 1Y36 would have done the 90 run, all was good until Witham !
fat_boy_pete
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I am sure. Let's see how the timetable settles down over the next few weeks.
dk1
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The normal IC set that works the 08:30 ex-Norwich (previously the 11:00 down) & then continues as usual with the 13:30 up.
Shunter_69
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Driver announced it at Liverpool Street
dk1
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Of course you boys & girls did your best. We never doubt you. Can't perform miracles though
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What platform at Witham does 1A94 use now? 3 or 4. Does 1Y34 now go into 1 at Colchester vice 2?
I expect there will be some fairly terse ‘please explains’ coming out this morning for the delays.
I expect there will be some fairly terse ‘please explains’ coming out this morning for the delays.
dk1
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Do you mean against particular crew/station staff for any delays that where caused to 9P91/2 or because trains where delayed to allow its smooth passage?
GA are clearly between a rock and a hard place. It was important to them to get the Ni90 inaugurated on schedule.
But they don't actually need any further incentives to get the new stock commissioned do they?
Whilst this am the Ni90's seem to have run to time, the pm runs have both had issues with late running trains ahead. Nothing to do with the stock of course.
It was important to a certain Norwich MP that it happened. I'm not against it per se but would rather it had been as a gradual implementation along with the new trains and other franchise commitments.
dk1
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Apart from the age old substitution on the 0625/1130/1630dn & 0903/1400 /2200up. These have been made semi-permanent until the 745/0s are introduced or 755s take over the 90min schedules.
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Cynic! Surely it's a complete coincidence that a Conservative MP's campaign commitment is delivered in a blaze of BBC coverage three days before an election?
Shunter_69
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The timetable change was set well before the European Elections were announced.
ashkeba
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May 2018? Really? Wow.
supervc-10
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Well, the Government was trying to tell us that we'd be out of the EU on March 29th at that time!
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There was a Flirt in other platform as we came in from Norwich on class 37 set. Made a great contrast between old and new.
Quite a few in Norwich including the new sidings at Crown Point.
Quite a few in Norwich including the new sidings at Crown Point.
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Better not! There might have been some loose language from the guard of P56 when he saw the feather.....
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It's lucky no one cares what the guard thinks then isn't it?
Won't be happening on the regular though seeing as it put 10 minutes into the 2000 up and 5 into the 2038 Yarmouth. Alongside the 13 for P56 that's the best part of 30 delay minutes to gain the Nin90 two at best.
fat_boy_pete
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Tonight's down run was Norwich in 97
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G08266/2019/05/21/advanced
All OK until Ipswich then gradually lost time from there as it caught the 18.30 1P56 which was 4 late leaving LST and 8 late by Stowmarket.
Again, shows how little slack there is in the working timetable.
dk1
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I don't think there will be enough 745s & the 90min trains are not planned to have catering long term although that may change. Too many 755s for all local work & remember they are working through off the East Suffolk. Will no doubt cover commuter work as well.
fat_boy_pete
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I'll have a small wager the Sudbury 755/3 unit will cross over with a 755/3 on the Harwich-Manningtree shuttle in the early afternoon every day, to avoid having to refuel the former during the day. e.g. each unit spends half the day under the wires. Releases a 720/5 from covering the latter diagram too, which anyway won't fit in the Manningtree bay without infrastructure work, which conveniently could also be avoided being done as a result.
Save money and better stock utilisation. Trebles all round.
Owen
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Will the new trains limit any delays on the 90 mins services?
dk1
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Excellent idea. I might email that to train planning & receive some love to shop vouchers haha. Only kiddingI'll have a small wager the Sudbury 755/3 unit will cross over with a 755/3 on the Harwich-Manningtree shuttle in the early afternoon every day, to avoid having to refuel the former during the day. e.g. each unit spends half the day under the wires. Releases a 720/5 from covering the latter diagram too, which anyway won't fit in the Manningtree bay without infrastructure work, which conveniently could also be avoided being done as a result.
Save money and better stock utilisation. Trebles all round.
dk1
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In what way?
fat_boy_pete
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Excellent idea. I might email that to train planning & receive some love to shop vouchers haha. Only kidding
Glad to be of service!
They are going to have to be creative with those 755 diagrams on Diesel all day though.
F Great Eastern
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Apparently the Norwich in 90 train will get first dibs on the stock allocation according to Roger French and a few other people on twitter. They will put the best rake and locos on that train when allocating at the start of the day.
Does seem a bit like everyone else is second class citizens, I'd also be worried that there is huge overcapacity on those services as well - there wasn't enough to fill more than a carriage on the northbound 1100am journey on Monday I'm told.
The problem with these services being extra is that you're likely to have two trains with plenty of space now rather than one well loaded one. We'll have to see how it holds up though but I don't see how a 10 car FLIRT to Norwich in 90 followed by another 10 car 2 minutes later is sensible use of capacity.
Does seem a bit like everyone else is second class citizens, I'd also be worried that there is huge overcapacity on those services as well - there wasn't enough to fill more than a carriage on the northbound 1100am journey on Monday I'm told.
The problem with these services being extra is that you're likely to have two trains with plenty of space now rather than one well loaded one. We'll have to see how it holds up though but I don't see how a 10 car FLIRT to Norwich in 90 followed by another 10 car 2 minutes later is sensible use of capacity.
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dk1
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The diagrams are full of shunt/fuel moves. That will not come cheap.