Abellio Greater Anglia new Stadler Flirt trains.

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  1. Owen

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    Do they not have faster acceleration?
     
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    Of course & braking. That will only help if extra stops are inserted but not the current status quo if all trains around it are 90s or 321s.
     
  3. Owen

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    That will change though.
     
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    Clacton drivers would need training on Stadlers for this to happen as things are at the moment. Looks like they only have 2 weekday diagrams that cover Harwich Town so it may be easier to pass the work to another depot.
     
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    I always wondered if it would be possible to link the Sudbury-Colchester and Colchester-Clacton stopper once the new units are introducted? Mostly under the wire with only a small section requiring the use of the diesel engines.

    I imagine pathing/timing constraints and crew training means this can't happen but nice to think about in an ideal world! :)
     
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    It was just for the launch day, it won't happen again I don't suppose, plus there were quite a few calls about P56 going over at Diss from Control ! also think there maybe a slight schedule issue Ipswich to Stowmarket, it is one minute quicker than 'The Anglian', whish of course is almost an identical service ! (it's lost a couple of mins each day so far)
     
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    And Norwich in 92 this evening. 2 minutes early at manningtree, but then 2 late leaving Ipswich and no recovery, so 2 late at Norwich. Better than the first 2 evenings, but still showing how tight times are.

    Maybe power doors and better acceleration from stops on the Flirts will build in the necessary recovery time and may facilitate a stop at Colchester. When not following a delayed train, there appears to be be some scope south of Ipswich. Not so, north of there.
     
  8. rdlover777

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    saw these two pics appear on Stadler's facebook page
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  9. swills

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    The times between Ipswich and Haughley seem a bit too tight, it is timed 1 min quicker than the Anglian, plus it's only a 1 min station stop at Ipswich. all the 9Pxx's have lost time Ipswich to Stowmarket so far.
     
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    Well the 11.00am from LST didn't reach Norwich in 90 due to signalling issues.

    But boy, that train went through Stowmarket the fastest I've ever seen a train go through Stowmarket at!
     
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    90MPH is the speed on the Down (100 on the up) delay was a track circuit failure, and the build up of traffic being cautioned.
     
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    is 90 on the down due to the delays or like that all the time?
     
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    No, it is just 90 on the Down, and 100 Up, don't know why it's 10mph less on the DL tho no TSR's
     
  14. Railperf

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    There is a TSR for path crossing sighting that loses time near Needham Market on the down - either 50 or 70mph.
     
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    Gypsy Lane is 50mph on the down only & has been since 2011. It has been planned to man it this week during the times the 90min services have been due to pass to allow it briefly to be lifted to 100mph. Not sure how long this will continue.
     
  16. Railperf

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    Yup. That is the one. For years there was a 70 TSR on the up .sth Stowmarket.which seems to have finally gone.
     
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    That went several years ago on the down & is now 90. On the up it was 60 which was one of the longest TSRs in history dating back to the 80s. That is now 100. It all changed when the road bridge was built & the footcrossing (which also crossed the down loop which is often blocked by freight) was abolished.
     
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    I notice the livery has been altered and now has the rabbit/hare thing on the cab. Actually looks really good.
     
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    Gypsy Lane has taken its place lol
     
  20. Rick1984

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    Class 37 and Flirt in Great Yarmouth Monday gone
    On picture, sorry about quality!
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    There is indeed, but the timings for 9P92 are still one minute faster than those for 1P46, which currently over this section are identical trains, also the 'block' sections Diss to Trowse are quite long, only needs the train ahead to be 1 or 2 late, and all is lost !
     
  22. Railperf

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    Ahhh...the curse of long block sections !! Same problem at the west of of Berks and Hants.
     
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    Was mentioned earlier that they were planning to 'man' the crossing to allow 100mph linespeed vice 50mph.
     
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    'cut-price' resignalling in the mid 80's simply replaced the signalboxes with colour lights in much the same places as the old signals.
     
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    is there any reason as to why is 90 mph on the Down and 100 mph on the Up?
     
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    If you are referring to Stowmarket then purely down to signal sighting/braking.
     
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    Rick1984, that was me in your pic of 37 and Flirt, I had just come in on the 12.36 Norwich-Great Yarmouth, having got the 11.00 Liverpool street-Norwich, new Norwich in 90 service, had cracking run.
     
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    So, is this a version of block signalling, but with colour-lights & controlled from a remote location? (Colchester?)
    Whilst travelling from Norwich to Ipswich last week, & sitting towards the rear of the train on the L/Hand side we were passing reds & yellows at 100 mph, so I assumed that this wasn't multiple aspect signalling!
    Where can I find any info regarding the signalling systems currently in use on the GE main-line?

    TIA, DD
     
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    GE is conventional two, three and four aspect signalling. All blocks are fixed. There are numerous stretches with bi-directional signalling allowing movements in both directions on both up and down roads.

    Likely it’s the bi-di you saw on the opposing road to the one you were travelling on.
     
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    Between Norwich & Ipswich most signals revert as soon as the drivers cab has passed too. Sitting in the train it's commonplace to pass single yellows & reds.
     

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