Flamingo
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Now if it is blocking a seat, it is causing an inconvenience, and it can be refused.
Rather like someone purchasing two identical meals, intending to eat both and then the buffet car manager coming to take one back because the buffet is short of meals
I agree with you rmt. Attitude like rhe above gives britains railways a bad name. Is a guard allowed to make up hi own rules?What a lovely attitude...
I agree with you rmt. Attitude like rhe above gives britains railways a bad name. Is a guard allowed to make up hi own rules?
I agree with you rmt. Attitude like rhe above gives britains railways a bad name. Is a guard allowed to make up hi own rules?
I think the attitude that people should be able to somehow claim two seats because they feel more important than others is much much much much worse - in fact such pure selfishness sickens me.
I think the real question is how many people use and andvance ticket AND sit in thier booked seats.
I will always move if a better seat becomes free.
Anyone that does that is actually breaking the conditions of their ticket. It's surprising how this is very rarely enforced and that no-one has tried excessing anyone sitting in the wrong seat.
In terms of people sitting in a different seat to the one they have reserved and thus "breaking the conditions of their ticket", I think that is just being too fussy. It doesn't really matter unless people are standing and refusing to sit down because a seat is reserved (and I can't see that happening, if there is a seat free, people will sit in it, no matter if it is reserved or not). Plus, what if the persons reserved seat is already taken up? You surely couldn't excess someone because of that as it is not their fault someone else is in their seat and won't move.
No, the guard does not make up his own rules. The rules say that one passenger, one seat regardless of how many tickets have been purchased.I agree with you rmt. Attitude like rhe above gives britains railways a bad name. Is a guard allowed to make up hi own rules?
Some people do! I am unsure how that situation should be dealt with!Even if it isn't technically against the rules, you don't need two seats ...
No, the rules do not say that. It clearly says THIS ticket and doesn't say anything about not allowing more than one seat to be reserved if you have ANOTHER ticket. From reading above FGW do have a policy of not allowing it but that isn't the same as the rule applying to all trains quoted earlier.The rules say that one passenger, one seat regardless of how many tickets have been purchased.
Some people do! I am unsure how that situation should be dealt with!
What people would need two seats, save for the obese where they would be occupying both at the same time!
Some people do! I am unsure how that situation should be dealt with!
As a passenger, what gives you the right to decide which rules apply to you and which rules don't (regardless of the inconvenience caused to others)?
Here's another point for you. Is the same person allowed to make simultaneous journeys with two tickets? If the ticket relates to a journey, then it would follow that only one ticket can be used at a time. There is no question that one ticket = one reservation.No, the rules do not say that. It clearly says THIS ticket and doesn't say anything about not allowing more than one seat to be reserved if you have ANOTHER ticket.
People travelling with a priceless large musical instrument?
Edit: That's priceless as in valuable, not as in hilarious!
Failure to act upon the orders of a train conductor/manager/etc isn't a criminal offence in law either (unless I'm wrong)
however 'pompous' or 'unnecessary' you think it might be for someone to buy two tickets when they are only one person, it's a bit like people having 2 swimming pools in their garden
Breaking a byelaw is a criminal offence. The power to make them is handed down to public corporations and local authorities. Rules are not all byelaws but all byelaws are rules.
On the railway the byelaws are binding to anyone on railway property regardless of the purchase of a ticket, and are very different from the conditions of carriage.
Exactly so and the National Railway Byelaws (2005) are in the main dealt with as a summary matter at a Magistrates Court hearing.
The majority carry potentially hefty fines. There are one or two odd ones with little or no penalty, but most are strict liability matters that if convicted carry a record of conviction by the court.
That's not the same as a recordable offence, but is a conviction nonetheless.
Yes, also covered in CoC.
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