Cheers Damon. I might visit Nettle Hill more often as I dont think phots at Cathiron will be possible soon due to Trent Valley 4 tracking. At Nettle Hill I managed to get on to the canal tow path. The path from the brigde to the canal was very overgrown (an understatement) but the tow path was muddy so as I was wearing my decent trainers I turned back. I think I can get some good photos from the side of the canal. Somewhere to investigate when I am wearing suitable footwear.