https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...paris-milan-return-journey-in-october.254736/
refers to a cancellation on 23/10 which is 5 weeks hence.
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refers to a cancellation on 23/10 which is 5 weeks hence.
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The line will be closed for almost a year:
www.francebleu.fr
Éboulement en Maurienne : le trafic ferroviaire ne sera pas rétabli "avant une petite année" - France Bleu
La circulation ferroviaire sur la ligne Chambéry-Turin ne reprendra pas pour Noël, mais des bus vont être mis en place à la gare de Saint-Michel-de-Maurienne cet hiver pour acheminer les touristes dans les stations de ski.
www.francebleu.fr
... during which it seems that no attempt is being made to provide a service over the border by road, or an improved service by other routes.The line will be closed for almost a year:
Éboulement en Maurienne : le trafic ferroviaire ne sera pas rétabli "avant une petite année" - France Bleu
La circulation ferroviaire sur la ligne Chambéry-Turin ne reprendra pas pour Noël, mais des bus vont être mis en place à la gare de Saint-Michel-de-Maurienne cet hiver pour acheminer les touristes dans les stations de ski.
hmmm... so they're saying that they will run some services round to Milan from 1 October. News to me: they cancelled my 3rd October train! And the return leg! Passengers for start of October were informed that everything was cancelled apart from some Paris-Lyon services
and I wouldn't be optimistic about an improvement either... From what we read it seems that international trains to and from Italy are deteriorating steadily due to FS lack of cooperation.
Maybe there is an opportunity here though: might this prompt SNCF (and maybe SBB/CFF/FSS) to run coaches as far as a useful station in Italy, whether FS want it to happen or not?.
LNW-GW Joint
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I assume TGVs are not cleared between Lausanne and Milan via the Simplon route (if there are paths available with the Gotthard diversions).
But the obvious alternative is to use SNCF to Geneva/Lausanne/Basel/Zurich and then EC trains on to Milan via whatever routes are available.
But the obvious alternative is to use SNCF to Geneva/Lausanne/Basel/Zurich and then EC trains on to Milan via whatever routes are available.
I think you've misread that - TI are running 1 more Paris-Lyon only.
The report quoted says roughly "there were 5 trains, 2 of which continued to Milan. These remain suspended."
Yes, that is the obvious alternative.
I'm pretty sure SNCF/SBB have operated TGVs to Brig in the past (somewhere in the distant recesses of what passes for a memory these days!), but the main problem would be: "Do SNCF have any TGVs that have both Swiss and Italian pantographs and signalling equipment?"
nwales58
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For anyone fancying an adventure, a bus does 7 return trips Monday-Saturday between Modane and Bardonecchia. Route 902 on the Torino region transport website www.extrato.it.
RRB timetables are on the TER website https://www.ter.sncf.com/auvergne-rhone-alpes/se-deplacer/fiches-horaires
with variations for other engineering work including bus all the way between Chambéry and Modane (2 hours) for some periods. Over the winter add ski traffic congestion, particularly at weekends, to the road part and you too could experience a journey from hell.
RRB timetables are on the TER website https://www.ter.sncf.com/auvergne-rhone-alpes/se-deplacer/fiches-horaires
with variations for other engineering work including bus all the way between Chambéry and Modane (2 hours) for some periods. Over the winter add ski traffic congestion, particularly at weekends, to the road part and you too could experience a journey from hell.
That's a decided improvement from when I last looked, when the 902 seemed to be down to 2/day (I was looking at ways to avoid the TGV supplement, but decided against.
With two buses, not connecting particularly well, it would be fiddly, but might still be as quick for Turin (not Milan though) as the detour through CH.
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D6130
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Does anyone have any updates on progress with clearing and reopening the line?
nwales58
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Autumn, Franceinfo, BBC News channel equivalent, reports:
www.francetvinfo.fr
SNCF info traffic has a PDF summarising the current 1 per day TGV-coach-TGV service with diagrams of the interchange stations:
Eboulement en Savoie : la SNCF prévoit une réouverture "à l'automne" dans la vallée de la Maurienne
Une partie d'une falaise s'était effondrée fin août 2023 en Maurienne et avait enseveli un tunnel de long de 300 mètres, coupant la liaison ferroviaire qui relie la France et l'Italie.
Remote control diggers are being used.
SNCF info traffic has a PDF summarising the current 1 per day TGV-coach-TGV service with diagrams of the interchange stations:
D6130
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Many thanks for that!Autumn, Franceinfo, BBC News channel equivalent, reports:
Eboulement en Savoie : la SNCF prévoit une réouverture "à l'automne" dans la vallée de la Maurienne
Une partie d'une falaise s'était effondrée fin août 2023 en Maurienne et avait enseveli un tunnel de long de 300 mètres, coupant la liaison ferroviaire qui relie la France et l'Italie.
Remote control diggers are being used.
SNCF info traffic has a PDF summarising the current 1 per day TGV-coach-TGV service with diagrams of the interchange stations:
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