Anyone any idea on the livery for the Virgin ecml trains. Cheers

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Just curious as how virgin will deck out their new toys. My autistic lad is a big ecml fan and he's getting a bit nervous because of the change. Bless him
 
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I know that is just an impression but the doors look rather narrow for a mainline intercity service. Bags, bikes, prams etc and the volume of passengers would surely struggle with them if they are to scale.
 

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Assuming that the amount of silver on the intermediate coaches is the same all the way down (i.e. the second coach in the photo looks the same as the half shown at the other end) then I think it'll actually look quite smart as apart from the red doors, that's very much like the silver livery East Coast are currently carrying. As much as I do like how the 800s look in white, long-distance routes and the dirt accumulated with such probably means silver will wear far better. I'm OK with it. As for the narrow doors, bear in mind it's with reference to a 26m long vehicle rather than 23 like before. I think bearing that in mind it looks fairly similar to current single-leaf doors in width.
 

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Thanks for that ash. I wonder where the old locos will go, my lad has a love affair with class 91s. Cheers Ian
 

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Thanks for that ash. I wonder where the old locos will go, my lad has a love affair with class 91s. Cheers Ian
The East Coast HSTs will sadly go for sure,but but in this months Railway Magazine, Stagecoach/Virgin are suggesting the possibility of retaining a number of short formed (5 Car) class 91/225 sets to run alongside the 800/801s even when they are fully introduced to provide additional capacity,as their performance ability would be such as to allow them to run in the same paths as the new trains, I suppose we shall have to watch and see.
 

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I assume they would look something like the current Pretendelinos.

I remember seeing a artists impression of the pendelino which was white with a silver virgin logo at the front. I thought it look pretty smart, i can not find the picture anymore.
 

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So we won't finally be seeing any Virgin Challengers then? Shame ;)
The whole fleet will be going through a refresh in the first two years of the new franchise, so we might yet see HSTs in Virgin red/silver – It depends if the £13.4 million set aside for the refresh stretches to the cost of the vinyls, I suppose.
 

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The whole fleet will be going through a refresh in the first two years of the new franchise, so we might yet see HSTs in Virgin red/silver – It depends if the £13.4 million set aside for the refresh stretches to the cost of the vinyls, I suppose.
Has anyone noticed that it's red, silver and blue rather than grey, i.e. together with the red doors it's Stagecoach inter-city livery with a Virgin nose and silver instead of white?

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please delete as I cant be bothered explaining again that Stagecoach and not Virgin are going to be running ECML!
 
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Will some of the 91s have BREL branding, like the Alstom and Bombardier ones on Virgin West Coast? :)
 
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Expect something similar to the pretendolino for the 91's/mk4's. The lines are similar so the artwork should be easy!

Probably be vinyls as they've recently all had repaints. Not sure if the red roof will work in vinyls?

I wouldn't be surprised to see one set done for the launch. Or at least in the first week.
 

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Will some of the 91s have BREL branding, like the Alstom and Bombardier ones on Virgin West Coast? :)
That got me thinking, when the 91s were new, did not 91001 carry a GEC logo/branding on its front grill? Or was this just for publicity shots and removed when entering revenue earning service?
 

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That got me thinking, when the 91s were new, did not 91001 carry a GEC logo/branding on its front grill? Or was this just for publicity shots and removed when entering revenue earning service?
It was just used for GEC publicity shots. The logo was then removed and replaced with a swallow.
 

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VTEC will be sub leasing an additional HST to cover when the refurbishment begins.
That has been confirmed along with the supplier. No start date as yet.
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Everyone knows this. Being pedantic and acting clever does not contribute anything to the conversation.
I don't think everyone does to be honest. To many questions about Virgin EC this and that when its just a branding like Virgin Media or Virgin Phone for instance.
 

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Everyone knows this. Being pedantic and acting clever does not contribute anything to the conversation.
Wanna bet!

On Tuesday when a member of traincrew looked rushed off their feet, a passenger said 'I bet you cannot wait until you work for Virgin'.
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Not until at least the 1st March officially.
Before National Express took over, I'm certain a Mk3 was repainted and back in traffic for at least a couple of days before the official takeover date.

I'm certain I never dreamt it. :D
 
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