Are the comfortable seats as fitted to longer distance Desiro units still available?

[pompeyfan]

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I would assume the seat cushions and design on 444s and 350/1s are no longer available due to crash regs? There is a subtle difference that makes 444s infinitely more comfortable than a 450, even in the airline seats. I was hoping this could be replicated on the 458s?

 

[swt_passenger]

I would assume the seat cushions and design on 444s and 350/1s are no longer available due to crash regs? There is a subtle difference that makes 444s infinitely more comfortable than a 450, even in the airline seats. I was hoping this could be replicated on the 458s?

They’re available enough to have added all those extras to the 444s surely?

 

[infobleep]

Can anyone remember how comfortable the refurbished 442s were?

I did travel in one but I can't remember if I sat down or stood, let alone remember the seat comfortableness.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I believe the E3000 is still in Grammer's range, yes.

 

[TEW]

Can anyone remember how comfortable the refurbished 442s were?

I did travel in one but I can't remember if I sat down or stood, let alone remember the seat comfortableness.

I found the seats to be very firm and a strange shape, so not particularly comfortable. They felt worse than under Southern/Gatwick Express.

 

[antharro]

Same. Not very comfortable at all. 444 standard were much better.

 

[Energy]

I believe the E3000 is still in Grammer's range, yes.

They are currently used as the second seat in the drivers cab.