Arriva liveried 82 DVT timings for Chiltern Line tomorrow ?

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General Zod

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It was heading the 1813 Marylebone - Banbury ( first stop Princes Risborough) . It is supposed to do the journey to Risborough in 32mins which is quite tidy. The 1807 Marylebone - Kidderminster was tailed by DB Schenker 67018.
 
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82307 is currently on the north end of the banbury cummeter set with 67014 on the south end booked diagram is
1H08 0653 Banbury-Marylebone
1U54 1813 Marylebone-Banbury
 

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Other than its just always been like that, no, not really.
The loco diagrams should change next month though, I believe at least one of the rakes will be stabled at Stourbridge overnight. Rumours suggest that there will be a few more loco hauled trains during the Olympics too.
 

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Thanks for that. Any particular reason it is only on one run in either direction ?
That's because the Banbury turn is not part of the Mainline operation and only runs loco-hauled to free up some 168s for other work. Off-peak there's no need for it.

The colour has been added to tonight, with 67 018 transferring to the diagram. Current formation is ATW DVT + 1 Virgin (debranded) TSO + 3 blue/greys + 2 Virgin + 1 blue/grey + DBS 67.
 
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Great ! You've almost read my mind. I saw it yesterday and was pleasantly surprised at seeing DBS 67 at the tail. Are Arriva DVT + DBS 67 liable to be booked on this diagram for the next few days / weeks ?
 

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Great ! You've almost read my mind. I saw it yesterday and was pleasantly surprised at seeing DBS 67 at the tail. Are Arriva DVT + DBS 67 liable to be booked on this diagram for the next few days / weeks ?
Very likely. Neither the stock nor locos tend to change very often, although they do tend to seem to like to keep the silver 67s available for Mainline services - last year 67 001 was on the Banbury turn from the beginning of February until mid-May, apart from when it was on inspection. This year 67 018 has spent most of the last few months on the diagram, barring inspections and a short period on the Birminghams when there was a shortage of serviceable silver locos - once that situation was rectified 018 was quickly switched back onto the Banbury turn.
 

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Very likely. Neither the stock nor locos tend to change very often, although they do tend to seem to like to keep the silver 67s available for Mainline services - last year 67 001 was on the Banbury turn from the beginning of February until mid-May, apart from when it was on inspection. This year 67 018 has spent most of the last few months on the diagram, barring inspections and a short period on the Birminghams when there was a shortage of serviceable silver locos - once that situation was rectified 018 was quickly switched back onto the Banbury turn.
It sounds like you know better than me but I see the silver sets at least a couple of times a week and from my observations 67018 has been providing power for one of the Birmingham diagrams for the best part of 2012 to date; certainly between late January and the end of March. And it was a silver loco, 67014, on the Banbury commuter rake when I saw it just over a week ago. Unless it's all some sort of coincidence on my part!
 

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They do try and keep the silver locos on the silver sets as far as is practicable, but yes, 67018 has been used on a silver set for the past few weeks.

The Arriva DVT is booked to be used on the Banbury set for a few months. It means the last non generator fitted DVT (82303) can go off for modifications.

Incidentally, the word is that blue DVT 82302 will be silver when it returns from generator modification.
 

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They do try and keep the silver locos on the silver sets as far as is practicable, but yes, 67018 has been used on a silver set for the past few weeks.

The Arriva DVT is booked to be used on the Banbury set for a few months. It means the last non generator fitted DVT (82303) can go off for modifications.

Incidentally, the word is that blue DVT 82302 will be silver when it returns from generator modification.
How ironic. The only Chiltern-livered DVT is being repainted into a dead colour scheme, despite it being chiltern operated.
 

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Well Chiltern have decided to adopt the silver colour scheme. Apparently senior management were not happy with the way Chiltern blue looked on a mark 3.
 

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DBS 67 was London bound last night heading the empty "licorice allsorts" rake ( Arriva DVT at the rear) post MYB-BAN duties. I assume they will be stabled at the Chiltern Wembley depot over the weekend ?
 

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Usually. There is a silver set ECS movement to Birmingham at about 18:00 on a Sunday evening. It's booked for 19:00 but almost always runs earlier.
 

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They will be soon from September, according to my sources. Some Mk3s are being prepped for it at the moment I believe.
I wonder if the current pair of mark 3 buffet cars for the WAG express will gain through-wiring to form part of the new sets. I guess there will probably be 3 buffet cars to go with the 3 DVTs, so the when the first new set arrives it could release one of the current buffets for through-wiring. That buffet would then return as part of the second set, and release the other current buffet so it could be fitted up to form part of the third set. Alternativly there could be three new buffets and the current ones would need a new home.
 

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I wonder if the current pair of mark 3 buffet cars for the WAG express will gain through-wiring to form part of the new sets. I guess there will probably be 3 buffet cars to go with the 3 DVTs, so the when the first new set arrives it could release one of the current buffets for through-wiring. That buffet would then return as part of the second set, and release the other current buffet so it could be fitted up to form part of the third set. Alternativly there could be three new buffets and the current ones would need a new home.
I thought there were only going to be 2 DVTs.
 

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47812 brought some MK3s to Canton from Burton, originally Barrow Hill today, these were the ex Cargo-D First Class coaches, will these have something to do with the DVT situation?
 

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47812 brought some MK3s to Canton from Burton, originally Barrow Hill today, these were the ex Cargo-D First Class coaches, will these have something to do with the DVT situation?
I doubt it, they're all first class. I guess they could be intending to use them to form a rake for driver training but, if that's the case, why six?
 

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I doubt it, they're all first class. I guess they could be intending to use them to form a rake for driver training but, if that's the case, why six?
May well be for driver training, as 47812 moved 4 ex Direct Rail Services (Now DB) Mk3s out of the former Bletchley TMD on March the 30th (5Z35 Bletchley Depot to Wabtecs Doncaster works), So perhaps DB are starting to get a move on at last?

(Thread here about that move http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1052305)
 
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