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ASLEF - LNER drivers to strike every Sat & Sun for 3 months from 31 Aug - Now called off

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Has anyone heard any more on this? Presumably the first set of strikes this weekend are going ahead unless we hear some news today re negotiations/them being paused or cancelled?
 

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Even if they were called off it'll be to late to revert to the timetables back to a normal weekend service so disruption is baked in sadly.
 

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Even if they were called off it'll be to late to revert to the timetables back to a normal weekend service so disruption is baked in sadly.
Surely everyone just works what they were expecting to work and the trains run again? Shouldn't take too much unpicking to reinstate the timetable.
 

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Surely everyone just works what they were expecting to work and the trains run again? Shouldn't take too much unpicking to reinstate the timetable.

Reinstating a full normal timetable is far more complicated than that when it comes to traincrew rostering let alone train planning.
 

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Modernisation means that if a timetable needs to be reinstated with less than 2 days notice it can’t be done
 

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Has there been any sign of movement between LNER and the unions over the LNER specific dispute since these dates were all announced?
 

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Good news! I still think ASLEFs tactics of announcing such significant strike action so close on the heels of the pay deal are dubious but at least we've got a positive results and quickly too! Only one weekend likely scuppered.
Maybe announcing so close was a tactic, after all, the dispute is now settled after nearly 2 years.
 

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Hopefully heads have been banged together very hard indeed within LNER management circles. Good to hear of a breakthrough within that toxicity.
 

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So its been called off. How has it been resolved so quickly? Two years of dispute and some of the horror stories I have read on here and it quickly got resolved. Now as a passenger I am cheering no strikes but very suspicious how quickly it was resolved.
 

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So its been called off. How has it been resolved so quickly? Two years of dispute and some of the horror stories I have read on here and it quickly got resolved. Now as a passenger I am cheering no strikes but very suspicious how quickly it was resolved.

Has it been resolved, or is it just a signal of goodwill that productive talks have started?
 
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So its been called off. How has it been resolved so quickly? Two years of dispute and some of the horror stories I have read on here and it quickly got resolved. Now as a passenger I am cheering no strikes but very suspicious how quickly it was resolved.
Perhaps it was the Transport Secretary calling for both sides urgently get around the table, negotiate in good faith and stop the action before it starts. LNER is an operator of last resort so for LNER management that in effect amounted to an order. Clearly this is a big change from the previous Government.
 

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Surely everyone just works what they were expecting to work and the trains run again? Shouldn't take too much unpicking to reinstate the timetable.

This late in the day “what they were expecting to work” will all have been cancelled, and it’s too late to start re rostering people.

They may be able to run a better than advertised service based on people heading into work who would otherwise sit spare.

Good news! I still think ASLEFs tactics of announcing such significant strike action so close on the heels of the pay deal are dubious but at least we've got a positive results and quickly too! Only one weekend likely scuppered.

Indeed. I think a lot of their members have also questioned those tactics in various messrooms up and down the country! The result rather vindicates them, though (as with the wider dispute).

Hopefully heads have been banged together very hard indeed within LNER management circles. Good to hear of a breakthrough within that toxicity.

Absolutely mate.
 
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Some may have been very against how Aslef handled the initial strike Announcement but the Gamble does seem to have worked out if the talks or some agreement has been found to a 2 year issue. Clearly they saw the more open movement of the new Government and decided to try and push it hard into the front light for some resolution.
 

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Some may have been very against how Aslef handled the initial strike Announcement but the Gamble does seem to have worked out if the talks or some agreement has been found to a 2 year issue. Clearly they saw the more open movement of the new Government and decided to try and push it hard into the front light for some resolution.

Whilst also standing up for what was obviously going wrong with LNER over the last couple of years. Well done ASLEF.
 

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So its been called off. How has it been resolved so quickly? Two years of dispute and some of the horror stories I have read on here and it quickly got resolved. Now as a passenger I am cheering no strikes but very suspicious how quickly it was resolved.
Change of Government leading to a change of approach one suspects. Wonder if the previous Tory administration was happy to back LNER management in a "them vs us" confrontation, whilst the Labour administration might not be quite so keen for LNER to be so combative with their own staff...
Has it been resolved, or is it just a signal of goodwill that productive talks have started?
The tweet seems pretty unequivocal that its sorted!

NEW: strike action at LNER suspended Train drivers have reached a resolution with the company regarding the breaking of agreements. Strike action scheduled for weekends between 31 August and 10 November is therefore suspended. We look forward to normal working resuming.
 

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This late in the day “what they were expecting to work” will all have been cancelled, and it’s too late to start re rostering people..
Just had an email from LNER saying exactly this. Amended timetable still applies but keep an eye on the day as additional services may run.
 

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Perhaps it was the Transport Secretary calling for both sides urgently get around the table, negotiate in good faith and stop the action before it starts. LNER is an operator of last resort so for LNER management that in effect amounted to an order. Clearly this is a big change from the previous Government.
I was 99% certain that something like this would happen from the moment the strikes were announced. I think there was effectively an order from the transport secretary to LNER management to "get it sorted, right now". And if the very top management in LNER wanted to carry on in new but similar roles in GBR they were not going to argue or delay.
 

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Just had an email from LNER saying exactly this. Amended timetable still applies but keep an eye on the day as additional services may run.

Good to hear - I do hope your planned journey on Saturday(?) goes smoothly.
 

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...according to the Daily Mail, Express (and other similar papers such as Cushelle and Asda Shades 3-ply).

This strike needs avoiding.

The Tory 'lets kick off with the unions' attitude was voted out on the 4th of July. It should never be a free-for-all for the unions, but the pay deals offered in the last few years, way below RPI certainly gave weight to the unions argument. It would be interesting to see what the sticking point was which caused Aslef to walk out.
About the one and only thing I agreed with the Tories about! Taxpayers' patience with the railways demanding a blank cheque with ever increasing subsidies, and striking all the time, is getting sorely tested. I've always felt that the people who go on strike are those who can afford to!

As expected, they're all jumping on the bandwagon. This is precisely why the previous government was correct to ignore them. Once you agree a deal with one union, all the others jump in wanting the same deal!
Quite.
 
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About the one and only thing I agreed with the Tories about! Taxpayers' patience with the railways demanding a blank cheque with ever increasing subsidies, and striking all the time, is getting sorely tested. I've always felt that the people who go on strike are those who can afford to!


Quite.
Absolute nonsense, the LNER dispute has been ongoing for a long time, well before the election(not about pay)
Regarding the Drivers national dispute, this was the first national action in over 30 years.
 

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So one has to presume LNER are reverting to historic processes thus drivers won't be pestered on days off and DM's wont be chucked a bung to work shifts? Thus will this allow LNER to run the advertised service reliably or will we see some thinning of services to keep within available resources?
 
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