NorthWestRover
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12.18 off Euston to Glasgow was cancelled too. I was on the 12.37 Euston to Edinburgh from Warrington to Wigan. Lots of room.
The 11.12 Euston - Glasgow was cancelled (no guard) but ran empty coaching stock from Euston to Preston, re-entering passenger service there. Although left there late as waiting for passengers being conveyed on the 11.27 Euston - Preston.
Whole timetable quite bizarre today, with Euston - Manchesters sitting in Birmingham New St for 30 minutes, others overtaking non-stop through New St, still others going via Stechford-Aston-Bescot.
Trent Valley is shut for 4 weekends (2 x 54 hour, 2 x 29 hour) This wont be the only weekend you see this.It looks like they've used diversions to bolster services to Birmingham a bit, albeit at a disadvantage to Manchester passengers,
Wouldn't be surprised if we end up 1tp2h by September, hopefully not thoughI’ve got no faith in there being a restored timetable anytime soon. I think we are really going to see more cuts.
I know it’s not Avantis fault but it really is shameful. LNER seem to be coping fine though
Wouldn't be surprised if we end up 1tp2h by September, hopefully not though
From the 16th August it should get better as those double vaccinated will no longer have to isolate.Wouldn't be surprised if we end up 1tp2h by September, hopefully not though
Wouldn't be surprised if we end up 1tp2h by September, hopefully not though
This all seems to have happened at the wrong time. But how come Avanti seem to be worse off than the likes of LNER.
Ah right, thanks for explaining to me.The current Avanti timetable is as low as it can go, realistically. Next step is no service AIUI.
LNER are very well resourced, as they were gearing up for service expansion, and therefore have more spare capacity in traincrew resource. They also have more efficient rostering terms and conditions, and AIUI a lower proportion of traincrew affected by the ‘pingdemic’
Relatively speaking of course. We shall still have the reduced base timetable introduced in May until December.Yes well things should improve from the 16th and be almost fine by the 26th as that will be 10 days since they would have last had to isolate
Although I wouldn't be surprised if it changed, the current timetable shows a significant increase in service frequencies from 13 September.Relatively speaking of course. We shall still have the reduced base timetable introduced in May until December.
It was originally to return to the full timetable then, but looking at RTT now, there are still plenty of trains culled after that weekend until December (such as most of the direct North Wales and many Chester services).Although I wouldn't be surprised if it changed, the current timetable shows a significant increase in service frequencies from 13 September.
Worried if its permanent . Same with XC and TPE at Glasgow Central.I’ve got no faith in there being a restored timetable anytime soon. I think we are really going to see more cuts.
I know it’s not Avantis fault but it really is shameful. LNER seem to be coping fine though
Worried if its permanent . Same with XC and TPE at Glasgow Central.
At least one of those will be returning to full strength this year.Worried if its permanent . Same with XC and TPE at Glasgow Central.
GBR really need to a grip of rostering and T&C's when we have Avanti in a poor state but LNER not impacted and even GWR IC services have only a few short term reductions. Then we have GTR having to reduce yet SE and GA are in good shape. Cases have actually been worst in the NE over the last month but not causing crew shortages up there so why do we have such high levels of pinging in certain areas.LNER are very well resourced, as they were gearing up for service expansion, and therefore have more spare capacity in traincrew resource. They also have more efficient rostering terms and conditions, and AIUI a lower proportion of traincrew affected by the ‘pingdemic’
GBR really need to a grip of rostering and T&C's when we have Avanti in a poor state but LNER not impacted and even GWR IC services have only a few short term reductions. Then we have GTR having to reduce yet SE and GA are in good shape. Cases have actually been worst in the NE over the last month but not causing crew shortages up there so why do we have such high levels of pinging in certain areas.
The TPE service has been reduced to Glasgow since late 2019.At least one of those will be returning to full strength this year.
Yeah i should made clearer that this is the sort of issue the GBR needs to get to grips with over the fulness of time. However, as you point out it will be painful so whilst traffic is low seems a great time to tackle it and use the TOCs as a proxy so GBR can concentrate on rebuilding the industry.1) GBR is currently about 6 people, and this is not a priority for them.
2) getting a grip of rostering and Ts & Cs is a big subject and one that will take time (and no doubt be painful).
3) the current issue is worse for TOCs that were already under strain for other reasons, either because of existing resource gaps or big training programmes. Avanti and GTR have been in the ‘forum headlines’ because that is where most people have noticed, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t happening elsewhere - it is.
What makes you think that it's Rostering and T&C's that are to blame?GBR really need to a grip of rostering and T&C's when we have Avanti in a poor state but LNER not impacted and even GWR IC services have only a few short term reductions. Then we have GTR having to reduce yet SE and GA are in good shape. Cases have actually been worst in the NE over the last month but not causing crew shortages up there so why do we have such high levels of pinging in certain areas.
@Bald Rick post 104 above made the commentWhat makes you think that it's Rostering and T&C's that are to blame?
LNER are very well resourced, as they were gearing up for service expansion, and therefore have more spare capacity in traincrew resource. They also have more efficient rostering terms and conditions, and AIUI a lower proportion of traincrew affected by the ‘pingdemic’
Fair enough. I'm curious as to what they have in mind then. My understanding was Avanti rostering T&C's are already more to the advantage of the employer than the employee compared to other TOCs.@Bald Rick post 104 above made the comment