Avanti West Coast rebrand

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  1. omnicity4659

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    The colour changed a while back, whilst it was Virgin.
     
  2. Bletchleyite

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    I genuinely do think it's the only bad thing about the brand, but it's very bad indeed. It looks awful and as you say is confusing. Mind you, this is the same FirstGroup that put First(f) on antimacassars in Standard class, so it is only to be expected.
     
  3. dk1

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    Exactly!! Does nobody ever learn?
     
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    This is an Ugli.
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    Image shows packaging of a Lily O'Briens Ugli - a chocolate given out in Avanti First Class and previously on Virgin Trains.
     
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    I can see why green wasn’t used as it would probably clash with the brand colours but red would fit i’d say.

    the 1 issue still with the route map as with virgins was route B which should just be labelled just as a super voyager route since pendos don’t go to shrewsbury :lol:
     
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    I would wager that the loss of the "You can download the BEAM app now..." announcement will be greeted by everyone on Rail UK as the most positive change since Avanti took over :D
     
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    Dare I ask what the BEAM app means? I don't have a mobile phone so I'm not aware of these things.
     
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    It’s the onboard entertainment app.
     
  9. pt_mad

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    Interior refresh rather than refurbishment. Could be a deep clean and new carpets and seat covers? Doubt there will be new seat frames or plastic panels unlike the 390 fleet.

    Lots of First TOCs have brought hi Vis in for platform staff though. Used to be a thing for them to wear the First branded blue-yellow half one for many years.
     
  10. Bletchleyite

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    Have they switched to a browser based solution like everyone else now has?
     
  11. Grumpy Git

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    I dont understand why they have to use hi-vis vests though. They just start to look scruffy after a few days and totally unprofessional (a good reflection of the management in TPE and Northerns case).

    Why can't they incorporate reflective strips into the standard uniform?
     
  12. JamesT

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    There’s now an Avanti Media app.
     
  13. Mathew S

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    There has been since the day of the franchise change :)
     
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    Travelled on 390010 today, and the toilet in coach A still has the Virgin balloon, and a Virgin contact details poster.
     
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    All TOCs use hi Vis for dispatch staff AFAIK
     
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    VTWC didn't used to do so, they instead had very bright red jackets. It was a far better, less industrial look.
     
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    GWR, SWT(R), Southeastern, Southern, EMT(R) all wear/wore hi vis
     
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    Actually South Western Railway only do this during strikes, so that they can be easily spotted when trains are very busy. Out of strikes they don’t.
     
  19. cactustwirly

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    Interesting! SWT definitely did, I've definitely seen SWT branded hi Vis on EMT dispatch staff after they lost the franchise.
     
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    As Bletchleyite mentioned, VT didn't used to, LNER don't, TPE I'm not sure about but Greater Anglia don't either and they tend to wear grey jackets.
     
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    i saw the new livery 390 today, here is a vid
     
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    That would be perfectly adequate I'd say.
     
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    342BB955-C8BA-4EF2-9853-27B4B8579D2C.jpeg Penrith Avanti-ed on the outside but not the platform signage

    btw a Pendolino came through with the sticker name “Alison” on both the front and rear noses - looked really naff. Didn’t get the number, but the name “All Change” on the side somewhere I’m sure.
     

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    Was on a 390 from Manchester today.
    Conductor starts announcing "Welcome to this Virgin..er..sorry, Avanti West Coast service..."
    He seemed to be struggling throughout the piece about when to say "Avanti".
    The passenger adjacent said "I'm on a Virgin train" into his phone at one point.
    Three weeks in and Virgin still won't die...
     
  25. Grumpy Git

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    I'd love to be just sat on a "British" train, with a ticket that could be used on any service going and coming back from my destination.

    Even better if used a standard coupling present on every coach and locomotove on the network........
     
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    Three weeks is nowt when waiting for Virgin's brand presence to dissipate. Hell, I know some people whom still refer to fast ECML services as GNER.. that's twelve years and counting.
     
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    Top quality de-branding on the Voyager I was on yesterday evening. The Virgin logos peeled off and replaced with nothing, leaving... A perfectly readable outline of the Virgin logo.

    If only the much predicted national single livery had actually happened this rubbish wouldn't happen with every franchise change.
     
  28. LNW-GW Joint

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    They are still using VTxxxx train codes on all the external PIS screens on the trains.
    Sometimes the industry doesn't help itself.
     
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    I'm sure this was already mentioned that the VT code is the operator code. The code for LNER is still GR, and it's been what, 10 years since GNER operated? Greater Anglia is LE - not even sure how long that's been out of use?
     
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    Yes, because my journey just isn't as comfortable if there's no buffer and chain.
     

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