Avanti West Coast rebrand

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Maybe true, but XC have had their franchise since 2007, if they've been running on fumes the whole time to the point they can't even reupholster seats and repaint hand rails, there's deep issues there.
Well, they essentially are.
XC's voyagers have had very tatty seat covers (in Virgin colours, despite them losing that franchise over a decade ago!), the paint is chipping off the back of the seats, they are poorly cleaned and very rattly, and there aren't enough of them. I can't think of any explanation other than the whole thing just being done on the cheap, either for Arriva's gain, or, more likely, to reduce spending by the DfT.

I don't think the fact that there are huge issues with XC is any secret; they do seem to be, in conjunction perhaps with Northern, the long-standing laughing stocks of these forums...
 
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Maybe true, but XC have had their franchise since 2007, if they've been running on fumes the whole time to the point they can't even reupholster seats and repaint hand rails, there's deep issues there.
That describes XC pretty well.
 

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pretty sure the grey in the middle of the carriages on XC voyagers is Virgin grey,and they just vinyled over the red, as AWC have done, and added the dark grey around the windows. do correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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pretty sure the grey in the middle of the carriages on XC voyagers is Virgin grey,and they just vinyled over the red, as AWC have done, and added the dark grey around the windows. do correct me if I'm wrong.
That is exactly what happened. The XC Voyagers had vinyl window bands, pink doors and the brown end simply placed over Virgin colours. The grey of the carriages is the same as Virgin, and they still have red roofs, albeit just filthy nowadays so harder to tell
 

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Are any Pendolino's currently in for a new look?
My fleet list (linked below) has all the newest know info on Avanti including 221110, the 4th 221 currently in for vinyls.

No pendos being done as far as I know. Although 390010 should be done at some point as that is the only plain white one left.
 
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Seems curious why Avanti are upgrading their Super Voyager fleet. Surely not as replacement or excess stock. I trust all will be revealed shortly.
 

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Avanti Livery updates (correct as of 18/02/2021)

If you spot anything that is wrong feel free to let me know. :)



221109 - 2nd 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides - Named 'Marco Polo'
221110 - 4th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides - Named 'James Cook'
221112 - 3rd 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides - Named 'Ferdinand Magellan'
221115 - 1st 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides - Named 'Polmadie Depot'


390001 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Bee Together'
390002 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Stephen Sutton'
390103 - Avanti Ends livery
390104 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Alstom Pendolino'
390005 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Wolverhampton'
390006 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Rethink Mental Illness'
390107 - Avanti Ends livery
390008 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Charles Rennie Mackintosh'
390009 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Treaty of Union'
390010 - Plain Ex-Virgin Trains White - Named 'Cumbrian Spirit'
390011 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Lichfield'
390112 - Avanti Ends livery
390013 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Blackpool Belle'
390114 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Manchester'
390115 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Crewe - All Change' Also named 'Alison' under the cab window on the Northbound driving carriage.
390016 - Avanti Ends livery
390117 - 2nd Full liveried Unit (New Avanti full revised livery) - Named 'Blue Peter'
390118 - Avanti Ends livery
390119 - Prideolino (Avanti Pride livery) - Named 'Progress'
390020 - Avanti Ends livery
390121 - Avanti Ends livery
390122 - Avanti Ends livery - Formerly a Maskolino with Yellow mask vinyls on each end. - Named 'Penny The Pendolino'
390123 - 1st Full livery unit (New Revised Avanti livery)
390124 - Avanti Ends livery
390125 - Avanti Ends livery
390126 - Avanti Ends livery
390127 - Avanti Ends livery
390128 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Preston'
390129 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Stoke-on-Trent'
390130 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Edinburgh'
390131 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Liverpool'
390132 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Birmingham'
390134 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Carlisle'
390135 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Lancaster'
390136 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Coventry'
390137 - Avanti Ends livery
390138 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of London'
390039 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Lady Godiva' with Coventry flag below each cab window. Also has white window surrounds on the east facing side of the northbound driving carriage.
390040 - Avanti Ends livery
390141 - Avanti Ends livery
390042 - Avanti Ends livery - Formerly a Maskolino with Yellow mask vinyls on each end.
390043 - Avanti Ends livery
390044 - Avanti Ends livery
390045 - Avanti Ends livery
390046 - Avanti Ends livery
390047 - Avanti Ends livery
390148 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Flying Scouseman'
390049 - 1st Full liveried 9 - car unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390050 - Avanti Ends livery
390151 - Avanti Ends livery
390152 - Avanti Ends livery
390153 - Avanti Ends livery
390154 - Avanti Ends livery
390155 - 1st full Avanti liveried 11 coach unit (Original Full Avanti Livery)
390156 - 2nd full Avanti liveried 11 coach unit (Original Full Avanti Livery) - Named 'Pride and Prosperity' on Southbound front carriage
390157 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Chad Varah'
I believe the only Super Voyagers that retain any nameplates are 101, 114, & 116 (all vinyls rather than physical nameplates). All the rest appear to no longer carry their nameplates.
 

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I believe the only Super Voyagers that retain any nameplates are 101, 114, & 116 (all vinyls rather than physical nameplates). All the rest appear to no longer carry their nameplates.
Thanks for that, I wasn't aware they had all been denamed bar the 3 you mentioned. :) I'll edit the list.
 

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Well, they essentially are.
XC's voyagers have had very tatty seat covers (in Virgin colours, despite them losing that franchise over a decade ago!), the paint is chipping off the back of the seats, they are poorly cleaned and very rattly, and there aren't enough of them. I can't think of any explanation other than the whole thing just being done on the cheap, either for Arriva's gain, or, more likely, to reduce spending by the DfT.

I don't think the fact that there are huge issues with XC is any secret; they do seem to be, in conjunction perhaps with Northern, the long-standing laughing stocks of these forums...

I must be travelling with another CrossCountry as their trains are always clean in my opinion.

Apologies for drifting away from the topic slightly!
 

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No pendos being done as far as I know. Although 390010 should be done at some point as that is the only plain white one left.
There's still one in red if we count the remains of 390033 :), here's a photo of it recently with the Virgin branding (kind of) removed.

https://flic.kr/p/2k4EvGU

It's used for training purposes, so I do wonder if Avanti will end up giving it new vinyls when they finish refurbishing of all the in-service ones or if they won't bother and leave it in original condition.
 
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There's still one in red if we count the remains of 390033 :), here's a photo of it recently with the Virgin branding (kind of) removed.

https://flic.kr/p/2k4EvGU

It's used for training purposes, so I do wonder if Avanti will end up giving it new vinyls when they finish refurbishing of all the in-service ones or if they won't bother and leave it in original condition.

If Avanti play around with the shop during the Pendolino refurbishment, they might need to give 033 it's own mini refurb to match the new standard.
 

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What is counted as "ends" vs "full" livery?
As 390047 has the blue ends but also the Avanti logo and "Avanti West Coast" on every coach too.
 

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What is counted as "ends" vs "full" livery?
As 390047 has the blue ends but also the Avanti logo and "Avanti West Coast" on every coach too.
So, Ends is just each driving carriage that has Avanti Vinyls but the rest of the train has no other colour or branding apart from plain white with black window bands.

Whereas full is like 390155 for example where every carriage has avanti vinyls on it as well as branding.

Also have you a photo of it then I can update the fleet list on here. I only update lists if I have photographic evidence to prove it's true. :)
 

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Ok, thanks, in that case 390047 has been upgraded to "full" as it has Avanti logo and lettering on each intermediate coach.
IMG_20210220_162846.jpg
 

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Just a small thing to note. The West Coast Main Line South route for Train Simulator came out late last year and, among others (including London Midland 350s strangely), included the Voyager in Avanti livery. It is the same livery as they are being put into now.
 

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Avanti Livery updates (correct as of 20/02/2021)

If you spot anything that is wrong feel free to let me know. :)



221109 - 2nd 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221110 - 4th 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221112 - 3rd 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides
221115 - 1st 221 Super Voyager in Avanti Vinyls with silver bodysides


390001 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Bee Together'
390002 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Stephen Sutton'
390103 - Avanti Ends livery
390104 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Alstom Pendolino'
390005 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Wolverhampton'
390006 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Rethink Mental Illness'
390107 - Avanti Ends livery
390008 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Charles Rennie Mackintosh'
390009 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Treaty of Union'
390010 - Plain Ex-Virgin Trains White - Named 'Cumbrian Spirit'
390011 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Lichfield'
390112 - Avanti Ends livery
390013 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Blackpool Belle'
390114 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Manchester'
390115 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Crewe - All Change' Also named 'Alison' under the cab window on the Northbound driving carriage.
390016 - Avanti Ends livery
390117 - 2nd Full liveried Unit (New Avanti full revised livery) - Named 'Blue Peter'
390118 - Avanti Ends livery
390119 - Prideolino (Avanti Pride livery) - Named 'Progress'
390020 - Avanti Ends livery
390121 - Avanti Ends livery
390122 - Avanti Ends livery - Formerly a Maskolino with Yellow mask vinyls on each end. - Named 'Penny The Pendolino'
390123 - 1st Full livery unit (New Revised Avanti livery)
390124 - Avanti Ends livery
390125 - Avanti Ends livery
390126 - Avanti Ends livery
390127 - Avanti Ends livery
390128 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Preston'
390129 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Stoke-on-Trent'
390130 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Edinburgh'
390131 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Liverpool'
390132 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Birmingham'
390134 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Carlisle'
390135 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Lancaster'
390136 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of Coventry'
390137 - Avanti Ends livery
390138 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'City of London'
390039 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Lady Godiva' with Coventry flag below each cab window. Also has white window surrounds on the east facing side of the northbound driving carriage.
390040 - Avanti Ends livery
390141 - Avanti Ends livery
390042 - Avanti Ends livery - Formerly a Maskolino with Yellow mask vinyls on each end.
390043 - Avanti Ends livery
390044 - Avanti Ends livery
390045 - Avanti Ends livery
390046 - Avanti Ends livery
390047 - 2nd Full liveried 9 - car unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390148 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Flying Scouseman'
390049 - 1st Full liveried 9 - car unit (New Avanti full revised livery)
390050 - Avanti Ends livery
390151 - Avanti Ends livery
390152 - Avanti Ends livery
390153 - Avanti Ends livery
390154 - Avanti Ends livery
390155 - 1st full Avanti liveried 11 coach unit (Original Full Avanti Livery)
390156 - 2nd full Avanti liveried 11 coach unit (Original Full Avanti Livery) - Named 'Pride and Prosperity' on Southbound front carriage
390157 - Avanti Ends livery - Named 'Chad Varah'
221114 having the vinyls applied this week

Sanded all (or at least, a lot of the way) back, is that the first one they've done it on? 115 definitely didn't get it but haven't seen any pictures of subsequent units. At least there'll be no shield remnants
221114 has had similar work done on the front ends
 
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221115 today

Looked awesome
 

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221103 having vinyls done
Thanks added to the list. :)

Do you or anyone else know if 390010 is still plain white, as it's the last one that hasn't had any Avanti branding yet.



390104 “Alstom Pendolino” now has the full revised livery and retains its red name stickers.

Just seen on this at Wolverton.
 
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