That doesn't, however, represent wasted money. They still own the fuel so it just means that they've got capital tied up in fuel contracts rather that sitting in the bank. Depending on what happens with fuel prices as the economies of the world get going again it could still net them a decent return.Though a fair bit of fuel costs has historically been heavily hedged. BA for example were very heavily bitten by this at the start of the pandemic: they had contracts in place for a pretty large amount of fuel, which they were still obliged to pay even if they weren't using the fuel.
On the contrary, it connects me in Scotland (which is part of Britain) to over 100 destinations around the world. I call that a meaningful service.
Don’t a lot of airlines within Europe do the same as British Airways? Fly out to other cities in the country but converge everything on their main hub.
Air France for example, they operate domestic routes within France but converge most if not all of them on Paris.
No it connects you with London. It doesn't connect you with the world more than KLM, Air France or Lufthansa services from Scotland do.
Flag carriers from small countries tend to exclusively run flights from one airport. The trend for larger countries is the same but its normal to run some meaningful international services from secondary airports. If you think of all the international non budget airline services that run from Birmingham, Manchester and Glasgow, it shows it could be a true national carrier but chooses not to. Its a perfectly valid commercial decision but it shouldn't lobby government as the "national" carrier. Virgin Atlantic is closer to being a British national carrier. BA runs a handful of token international services on a seasonal and weekly basis using spare planes e.g. city flyer planes that can't use London City Airport during weekly banned period.
Yes. Any US Military aircraft carrying the president takes the call-sign "<branch> One" - so the helicopter from the White House to Joint Base Andrews is Marine One while (s)he is on board.Was Marine One here as well for the visit ?
Do they have a Navy One or Army One ?
Must make sure of marking the right one off in the aircraft equivalent of the Combined Volume...
It did operate quite substantially domestically under the BA Connect brand. That was flogged to flybe in the mid 2000s. Now whatever happened to them?
The people blaming BA here are just brainless. The main issue lies with the government. Too much resistance/ too little investment in infrastructure, and too high domestic taxes.
Why are we still talking about a privately funded third runway at Heathrow decades on? Why does a flight from London to Paris or Brussels pay less tax than a flight from London to Newcastle or Edinburgh?
I was at Heathrow and saw both AF1 and the C32A.
About half an hour before AF1 arrived, six helicopters including two of the USAF helicopters that the president uses flew in. I was in the wrong place to get some decent snaps of the copters but here is a link to my flickr site with pics of both AF1 and the C32A arriving. Its amazing to see how gleaming these aircraft are. Some serious elbow grease has gone into making sure these planes look absolutely immaculate:
Keith Wood | Flickr
Yes; 09-0016... what surprised me was it was put in the Ockham stack and made at least six or seven orbits close to me before eventually joining the approaches; I would have thought it should have received the same priority...?Lucky you! I've seen a VC-25 a few years ago over Trowbridge yet lost record of it now I don't know which other one I need, and thebobe today didn't come this way
Did you see the C-32 which was behind it a bit later on that also went to LHR?
The operation this afternoon was interesting. All arrivals should have been on 27L. However at about 14:30, the airspace around the southern runway was closed and all flights directed onto 27R. This gave a clear path in for both AF1 and the C32. The helicopters were the first to arrive and flew into LHR across the airport north to south before turning right to land on 27L also; presumably near the VIP terminal. The large crowds who had gathered at Myrtle Ave would have got a grandstand view of those arrivals. AF1 then landed about 16:15 on 27L. I was in the field behind the football club as that offers better views/photographic opportunities of arriving aircraft on 27L and AF1 was my primary interest.Yes; 09-0016... what surprised me was it was put in the Ockham stack and made at least six or seven orbits close to me before eventually joining the approaches; I would have thought it should have received the same priority...?
And until HS2 is fully open to Scotland then using Easyjet etc will be the cheapest method although not the most environmental way of getting from London to Scotland as a example it's cheaper for me to book Luton to Edinburgh with Easyjet then Luton to Edinburgh via rail so until that changes or until LNER return a decent 1st Class service with complimentary refreshments then flying reminds my preferred option.What on earth do we want more highly polluting domestic flying for? We want rid of it, and HS2 provides a great opportunity to do so.
What on earth do we want more highly polluting domestic flying for? We want rid of it, and HS2 provides a great opportunity to do so.
CF my point earlier in the thread: How often do people actually *need* that speed vs how often is it a convenience? What if you could travel Inverness to London in say 4 hours door to door for a comparable price to flying?Air is always a lot faster and often cheaper to boot.
Air is always a lot faster and often cheaper to boot.
........All the while all other traffic was still landing/departing on 27R. I believe that 27L was scheduled to be out of use until approx 19:00 when AF1 was due to leave for Brussels. Not sure if it actually left this evening or whether plans changed (unlikely given the military precision of these ops).
CF my point earlier in the thread: How often do people actually *need* that speed vs how often is it a convenience? What if you could travel Inverness to London in say 4 hours door to door for a comparable price to flying?
Not always. As ever, it depends on your start / finish point and timings.
If you live in Islington, and want to get to Princes Street for lunchtime, the train will always be quicker. Usually cheaper as well end to end, almost certainly if you have a big bag.
True. Inverness-London is stretching things a bit, but post HS2 and HSR Scotland it should be possible to do central Aberdeen to central London just around the five hour mark. For most people that's likely to be fast enough - you can leave Aberdeen around lunchtime and be checked into your hotel and watching a show in the evening having had a much less stressing journey.We are talking about reality not fantasy !!
These comparisons are very difficult to make as it is highly dependent on where you are starting/ finishing and the time of departure.We are talking about reality not fantasy !!
Tube to London City and onto BA Cityflyer to Edinburgh using the Airport 100 Link or Tram at the other end ?
Timed correctly that would be well under four/five hours the train takes.
For people who live in Belfast, Inverness and many other places, London is a very long way by land transport (and sea to NI) and is totally nonviable for business daytrips.
You are working on the assumption that long-distance business daytrips are a good thing. They are not. The vast majority of them are simply an excuse for a jolly.
You clearly have never been on a business trip.
Oh, and they are not a 'good thing', they are essential in many sectors.