birchesgreen
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Best interchange is Bakerloo to Jubilee at Baker Street, just a short straight walk.
I can't see that anything can be done at New St. - it is very much constrained by its location. Gatwick Airport station has the same problem to a lesser extent. However it is still an unpleasant place to change trains.
If railways and this forum are still around in 2121 or even 3021, I'm sure people will still be complaining about New St. being unfit for purpose then...
Likewise Bakerloo to Victoria, or vice-versa, at Oxford Circus. I can't understand why TfL's official journey planner advises passengers travelling from Kings Cross to Waterloo, or vv, to change onto the Northern Line at Leicester Square.Best interchange is Bakerloo to Jubilee at Baker Street, just a short straight walk.
Really??? The bridge basically goes to every platform except 1 and 2York is difficult, temptation to delay -
I often have to change at Woking from the terminating stopper at platform 3, and then get to platform 5. With luggage, it feels like a heck of a trek! Similarly I've been caught out at Gloucester: crossing from platform 4 to platform 1 can feel like walking to the ends of the earth, if you have luggage (and it's raining - the 'shelter' providing minimal protection if it is windy).Not yet mentioned: Woking also seems fairly convenient to interchange. Shelter, short walks, easy signage, etc. Admittedly I've never needed to change to/from the slow Waterloo metro services there - maybe my opinion would be a bit different if I did need to.
Best interchange is Bakerloo to Jubilee at Baker Street, just a short straight walk.
Likewise Bakerloo to Victoria, or vice-versa, at Oxford Circus. I can't understand why TfL's official journey planner advises passengers travelling from Kings Cross to Waterloo, or vv, to change onto the Northern Line at Leicester Square.
Likewise Bakerloo to Victoria, or vice-versa, at Oxford Circus. I can't understand why TfL's official journey planner advises passengers travelling from Kings Cross to Waterloo, or vv, to change onto the Northern Line at Leicester Square.
Every time I use New Street (admittedly only a few times per year) to change trains I always seem to find a different way of exiting the station to try and find the excellent Post Office Vaults!New Street is, by far, the worst. Not just for interchange but also for finding the right exit. A combination of poor signage and layout.
St Pancras also gets an honourable mention for levels of convolution required to transfer between the various groups of platforms and its poor signage. Indeed, the overall experience is of being in a shopping centre with a few trains tacked on as an afterthought.
For the good I'd have to say Glasgow Central for its (excepting Argyle line) easy level access to all platforms and overall ambience. No chance of getting lost there.
I really used to struggle with this, although after living in Birmingham for a while and needing to use different exits I'm a bit better at it.Every time I use New Street (admittedly only a few times per year) to change trains I always seem to find a different way of exiting the station to try and find the excellent Post Office Vaults!
I think I passed through the ticket barriers 3 times last night to get from the platform to the pub!I really used to struggle with this, although after living in Birmingham for a while and needing to use different exits I'm a bit better at it.
Unless I've been at the post office vaults for a bit too long.
Most of those things don't make using it any more difficult - in fact none of them do - but I do agree that you have to watch out for signs to get the right section of a platform.Leeds,
I don't think it has got any two platforms the same length, numerous bays in various locations, most of them are curving this way or that and quite a few are on a lower level to complicate things even more.
It really wants straightening out with a massive rolling pin!
The problem with trying to straighten out Leeds and making all platforms on the same level would be that the whole station would need closing for a considerable amount of time either all in one go or piecemeal.Leeds,
I don't think it has got any two platforms the same length, numerous bays in various locations, most of them are curving this way or that and quite a few are on a lower level to complicate things even more.
It really wants straightening out with a massive rolling pin!
Well said, I could have easily posted exactly the same words.New Street is, by far, the worst. Not just for interchange but also for finding the right exit. A combination of poor signage and layout.
St Pancras also gets an honourable mention for levels of convolution required to transfer between the various groups of platforms and its poor signage. Indeed, the overall experience is of being in a shopping centre with a few trains tacked on as an afterthought.
For the good I'd have to say Glasgow Central for its (excepting Argyle line) easy level access to all platforms and overall ambience. No chance of getting lost there.
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St Pancras also gets an honourable mention for levels of convolution required to transfer between the various groups of platforms and its poor signage. Indeed, the overall experience is of being in a shopping centre with a few trains tacked on as an afterthought.
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I find St. Pancras disorientating, like a maze.
St Pancras also gets an honourable mention for levels of convolution required to transfer between the various groups of platforms and its poor signage. Indeed, the overall experience is of being in a shopping centre with a few trains tacked on as an afterthought.
That tucked away basement bar feel a couple of minutes away from New Street is included in the price though! It's a Birmingham institution and I'm happy to pay a bit more to support it. Was really worried they wouldn't have survived the pandemic.I think I passed through the ticket barriers 3 times last night to get from the platform to the pub!
Beer excellent as usual but a bit pricey for a tucked away non trendy basement bar at £4.10 a pint for a 3.6% golden ale!
That tucked away basement bar feel a couple of minutes away from New Street is included in the price though! It's a Birmingham institution and I'm happy to pay a bit more to support it. Was really worried they wouldn't have survived the pandemic.
Post Office VaultsWhat’s the name of the pub at New Street? I’m in Brum at the moment having a recce. Might have a quick pit stop on the way home..
Nice one, taPost Office Vaults