Speaking of the 2005-2007 refurb i’ve seen pictures of units with the revised front end and revised c&c livery but still with analogue destination indicators, was their any reason for this?First ScotRail 318s (the 2013-17 refurb finished under Abellio) - basically the 2005-2007 refurb with a 'Saltire' theme. Basic/functional in many respects, but with decent legroom and frankly the most comfortable seats of any SR EMU (not to original Class 303 levels of comfortable, but the closest that exists), am always that little bit happier when a 318 turns up.
The first two 318s to be refurbished in the 2005-07 programme (251 & 264) were the only ones that retained the original roller-blinds post-refurbishment. No doubt the reason (open for correction here) was that the design for how the new PIS unit slotted into the redesigned front end was still being finalized as the rest of the refurb was being done (both units were at Kilmarnock together for exactly a month, from 16th July to 16th August 2005, the latter date being when 251 departed after being in the works since 29th April 2005; 261 departed on 11th October). From the 3rd refurb (318257) onwards, the PIS system was fitted as standard.Speaking of the 2005-2007 refurb i’ve seen pictures of units with the revised front end and revised c&c livery but still with analogue destination indicators, was their any reason for this?
It’s weird how the class 314s never got the same livery that was on the 318s since they were refurbished at the same time, also why did they not have the turquoise stripe? was this reserved for new trains?
Was using 2008 as the cutoff date as all of the ScotRail franchise (bar ofc the Caley Sleeper) was brought under the Saltire blue/white brand that year, but they could have very ceased their involvement eariler than that in all but name. But I digress, we're veering way off-topic here.Wasn’t that in 2005 and the SPT brand was kept in name only?
The SWT 455 refurbishment was excellent and improved the interior ambience of those units hugely; they feel bright and spacious nowadays. They're a lot pleasanter internally than the rest of the Mark III-derived EMUs in my opinion, including the 442s after their utterly retrograde refurbishments.
As for the worst, I'm tempted to say the Gatwick Express 442 refurbishment as it spoilt them completely. More generally, any of the Serco-Abellio era Northern refurbishments due to the excessive use of depressing purple.
Although the Merseyrail 2002-05 refurbishment was radical and definitely much more modern, the colour palette let it down badly. The neutral lilac panels and dour moquette didn't age well. The Merseyrail 507/8s look much, much better now with the smart black moquette and more traditional (for Merseyside) yellow bulkheads. Southern's 313 refurbishment was perhaps less comprehensive but used better colours and both the carpet and armrests are nice additions.
As for the 314s, they weren't refurbished as such during 2004-06. They were overhauled, most were repainted and there were door modifications as part of this. Possibly the original rubber seals between the seats were replaced with metal ones during this programme. The only significant change to the 314 interiors prior to the 2011-13 refurbishment was the replacement of the original blue seat cloth with Strathclyde's version of the Reggie Rail 'spot' moquette in the early 1990s.
I think, the only minor feature that let the SWT 455 refurb down was the rather retina burning exposed fluorescent lighting tubes. While I prefer the SWT 455 refurb to Southerns, at least Southern tidied up the ceilings in those.
Agreed, but the last time I went to Liverpool it was aboard a 153 and that was at the opposite end of the scale.EMT 158s. Comfortable seating for longer journeys, very good legroom, and although some lament the change to a predominantly airline layout, it did give the units a much-needed capacity boost. Even though the refurbishment is a good ten or so years old now, the units' interiors still look very presentable - especially compared to what a lot of them were like before! I'm glad they're staying on Norwich - Nottingham a little longer than was previously envisaged.
That period (early/mid-2000s) is a huge blank spot in my memory banks, so thanks for the additional info. Ofc, the last 314s still in Orange/Black were repainted in 2004-06 as part of that programme. Mind the very last ones (201-202) getting real tatty by late 2005/early 2006. To this day, I find it remarkable that 314202 lasted as long as it did in that livery (Nov. 2006 was when it was finally sent away for overhaul/repaint). But I'm getting off-topic again lolAs for the 314s, they weren't refurbished as such during 2004-06. They were overhauled, most were repainted and there were door modifications as part of this. Possibly the original rubber seals between the seats were replaced with metal ones during this programme. The only significant change to the 314 interiors prior to the 2011-13 refurbishment was the replacement of the original blue seat cloth with Strathclyde's version of the Reggie Rail 'spot' moquette in the early 1990s.
Worst refurbishment - current 2 carriage 158's - for replacing the good parts like the seating and leaving the rubbish bits such as the hand driers.
I've not ridden on any, but I've seen photos and they look nice. I'd say the 158 is a decent train, and the biggest problem with most of them in recent years is that they've been worked hard and ended up looking pretty tired. It's actually quite easy to spruce them up again, with the right sort of attention.The Wales Arriva-refurbished 158s are an example of a really good refurbishment I'd argue. Good comfortable seats, many aligned with windows (after a lot of lobbying by passengers), and a lot smarter than their dismal appearance (inside and out) in Central Trains livery.