Bizarre New Malden incident tonight.

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Matt Taylor

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Just when you thought you'd heard of everything:

'@SW_Trains: person dropped phone, asked Guard to retrieve but train on move, tried to assault Guard through window & slipped.'

Person now being attended to by paramedics after the person fell under the moving train. Meanwhile SWT now has a huge mess of trains and crew to untangle.
 
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I think you'll find they should just keep operating and pick up the bits at end of service ;) If he rears his head again I might shove it under a train myself!
 

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Just when you thought you'd heard of everything:

'@SW_Trains: person dropped phone, asked Guard to retrieve but train on move, tried to assault Guard through window & slipped.'

Person now being attended to by paramedics after the person fell under the moving train. Meanwhile SWT now has a huge mess of trains and crew to untangle.

What the hell?! Darwin-esque I'd say!

 

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Just when you thought you'd heard of everything:

'@SW_Trains: person dropped phone, asked Guard to retrieve but train on move, tried to assault Guard through window & slipped.'

Person now being attended to by paramedics after the person fell under the moving train. Meanwhile SWT now has a huge mess of trains and crew to untangle.

I don't get it! Was the passenger on the platform and the guard on the train? If so why would the passenger expect the guard to be able to retrieve his phone from the tracks from a moving train?!
 

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Well, if he/she lives let's hope they get suitably prosecuted as a follow up. Tw*t.
 

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One does wonder if you can be prosecuted for being a tw*t.

Otherwise, yes, they should be charged with something, idiots..
 

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I bet that the CPS will say that eventhough an offence may have been committed, because of the injuries sustained its not in the public interest to prosecute...

How can you expect a person locked into a moving train to pick up your phone from the cess!? Idiot...
 

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Is it not more likely that the person was on the train.
Got off leaving phone behind.
Realised after the doors were shut/train started to move off.
Attempted to assault guard while trying convince him to stop train and retrieve said phone?
 

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Is it not more likely that the person was on the train.
Got off leaving phone behind.
Realised after the doors were shut/train started to move off.
Attempted to assault guard while trying convince him to stop train and retrieve said phone?

This version has a ring of truth about it.

I, obviously, wasn't there so we will no doubt find out before too long. Tw*t or not it is a bit harsh to fall under a train and I do hope the person is not to badly injured (but maybe just enough as a natural punishment for assaulting the guard in the first place). Let's hope that this can serve as a salutary lesson to all like minded passengers.
 

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One does wonder if you can be prosecuted for being a tw*t.

The court system of the United Kingdom would become a little bit too busy, and there'd be very few managers left on the railway. <D
 

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My thoughts here are with the Guard, who not only had to deal with an attempted assault and presumably a volley of accompanying verbal abuse, followed by the shock of the person falling down the hole, but who will now be subjected no doubt to enormous scrutiny over his/her dispatch procedures. Never nice being in that position even if you've done it by the book.
 

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One does wonder if you can be prosecuted for being a tw*t.

Otherwise, yes, they should be charged with something, idiots..

More a case of being charged (and hopefully convicted) of attempted assault or threatening behaviour. It was not the guard's responsibility to retrieve an item which somebody had carelessly discarded.

And I wonder how much it has cost the British taxpayer to provide this dimple-brain with medical treatment ?
 

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The court system of the United Kingdom would become a little bit too busy, and there'd be very few managers left on the railway. <D

Fixed that for you...

And I can tell you it's a fair amount of money, and the chances are he'll claim compo for it as well...
 

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If the train was moving, then the doors would have been closed, so how could the guard have been assaulted? Or was it a verbal assault?

Feel for the guard here. Idiotic to lose your phone, even more idiotic to then try and assault the guard. Hope he gets convicted and charged.
 

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If the train was moving, then the doors would have been closed, so how could the guard have been assaulted? Or was it a verbal assault?
Punch aimed through the open window of the rear/middle cab that the guard was travelling in?
 

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When I was at Wigan North Western last week a 156 pulled in working the Liverpool Lime St to Blackpool North service, guard got out and spoke to the platform staff (as this service was late and had a few people on who had now just missed their VWC connection). Meanwhile a few of us are laughing having just read the graffiti inside the guards door panel, a bloke (who looks like a regular on crimewatch) was having a sly fag out of view (but kept looking at the train - can anyone guess whats going to happen next?)

So the guard moves back to the rear door, the dispatcher gives the all clear and the guard closes the doors then the rear door. Next thing this guy comes walking over, presses the button, then starts making obscene gestures to the guard before running alongside the train whilst repeatedly punching and kicking the door (while somehow staying upright). Needless to say the BTP chaps came out of their office and nicked him moments later...

Got a slyly taken photo of him running and punching the sprinter to upload someday.

Phil 8-)
 
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Is it not more likely that the person was on the train.
Got off leaving phone behind.
Realised after the doors were shut/train started to move off.
Attempted to assault guard while trying convince him to stop train and retrieve said phone?

Nope, phone fell between platform edge and train (a womans phone by all accounts and not d-heads), d-head (thinking he may be on a promise if he shows how authoritative he can be) insists guard retrieve phone with "long stick", guard refused and despatched train as normal, d-head took swing at guard through window, fell between train and platform, train stopped immediately (not sure if by guard or driver who may have been looking back despite there being no requirement to), d-head dragged out of gap and had a flight in a helichopper (did not get aforementioned promise either).

Press goes into meltdown about "uncaring guards" etc because it has to be the railways fault!

More details ARE known but cannot be posted.
 

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It makes me smile to know that a complete prat has thoroughly shown himself up whilst posturing. It's a pet hate of mine, I only wish such devine justice occurred more often, though perhaps without delaying trains!
 
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