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  1. overthewater

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    an Ex Citylink coach has now been sent Border buses from WCM.
     
  2. overthewater

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    It seems that EX Citylink coach YN15 EKF have now also been sent down to the borders for testing on the X95, Stupidly its on the Carlisle to Gala section and not on the Hawick to Edinburgh section which would have made more sense. There alot of traffic on the southern half which would benefit from low floor buses.

    Also another 2 2 Optare MetroCity YJ17 FZA/B has joined the fleet so how many Metrocitys is that?

    It seems border buses has brought a few of the First Coaches for School work.

    According to a facebook group the following first buses are still on loan:
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    20326/7 are the two coaches which have been bought by Borders Buses for school work. All the rest of the loaned First stuff is due to go back by the end of this month.

    A new app is due to launch next month, I believe.
     
  4. Blindtraveler

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    I must give the X95 coaches a try. Any ideas what times they usually work anyone?
     
  5. overthewater

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    It suppose to operate the X70 so it must do during the day runs on the X95?
     
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    Being trialled on the X70 first.
     
  7. Flying Snail

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    This and 3 others have recently been replaced by new Irizars on the Glasgow-Skye route. Presumably the other 3 2015 coaches will be joining this one on the X95.

    By my calculation the route needs 5 buses for the Carlisle-Gala portion and 5 for Edinburgh-Hawick so ideally 11 or 12 needed to fully convert the route.
     
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    Thanks all for the info. Would someone be good enough to let us know when this starts working X95s?

    If all the First vehicles are going back soon does this mean that as well as the collection of Inviros and Metrocitys and Volvos there are some further deckers coming?
     
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    YJ17FZB does look good in the Red Border Buses Livery
     
  10. route101

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    On a journey of that length a coach would be comfortable , is the x95 split now ?
     
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    First bus spilt the route in two last years blaming the trains:

    * 1ph: Edinburgh - Gala - Hawick
    * 1ph: Carlise - Hawick - Gala
    * 2ph: Gala - Hawick.
     
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    One journey does still operate from Edinburgh through to Carlisle, the 1600 ex-Edinburgh on Mondays to Saturdays. This arrives at Carlisle at 1932 and then runs the 2105 Carlisle to Galashiels.

    The Sunday service on the X95 had been split at Galashiels for some time prior to last year's changes.
     
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    If coaches prove popular then theres an argument for unsplitting it again Id say as they could market it as a viable alternative.
     
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    The split was because they halved the Galashiels-Edinburgh frequency by stopping the hourly Carlisle buses at Gala. This was the easiest way to keep the 30 min frequency between Gala and Hawick.

    I suppose they could re-time the services to run as a through bus and add a separate Gala-Hawick on the half-hour, it might be useful to provide a low floor bus on the short with coaches only on the through bus.

    The main problem with competing against the train is the slow journey times in comparison; 50 minutes on the train or 1h30+ on the bus in peak times. First really were rubbish in the region but it was inevitable that the Edinburgh-Gala route would take a hammering when the rail line re-opened. I guess the biggest issue is the traffic in Edinburgh, it is a very slow city to get through and the X95 takes 30 minutes plus to do the 5 miles from the city centre in the peaks.
     
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    Central borders needs a low floor service in addition to the coach so doing as you suggest would work.

    I know it cannot compete on journeytime but given the transpenine excuse for a service can and regularly does leav full they could do an Everyone Gets A Seat type marketing thing which has been successful for NatX in the past.
     
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    I can remember when the X95 as able to do it in around just over an hour and that only back 10 years. But the traffic within Edinburgh and the roadworks linked to the new trains never helped. What is surprising is the train now take same amount of time the bus nearly managed years ago.

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    Interesting they had a night service back then
     
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    Border buses since the start of last monday took over two routes in Berwick area: 267 and 464 after winning the contract


    Daveballntyn55 Over on the Yahoo groups postage this very helpful piece:

     
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    http://www.bordertelegraph.com/news/15532077.All_mod_cons_for_Borders_bus_passengers/

     
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    I wonder what the majority of the customers will go for? A better question has to by is why couldnt First done something like this? there being out done by a small independent local bus company, with fingers in lots of pies.
     
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    They probably got Borders at a very good price, so they can afford to do so.
     
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    There is talk border buses are going after the 101-103 Edinburgh to Dumfries route? since the contract is up for renewal.
     
  23. Blindtraveler

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    They would need an outstation and some drivers in Southwest Scotland to make this doable.

    I cannot see them getting over stagecoach to be honest.
     
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    Are Borders still using the Charlesfield garage, as well as Berwick and ex-First Gala? If so, is it expected that the operation will continue to need all three? With two of them being reasonably close, maybe a third if needed would be better rather closer to Edinburgh.
     
  25. overthewater

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    It seems Border buses have taken over the information desk at Gala bus station.
     
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    Borders Buses are offering a whole network day ticket for £5 from 6 to 26 November 2017.
     
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    If you're trying to add an image and it's not working, either just post the url of the image, or save it to your computer then upload it.

    But it looks like in this case you're trying to embed a pdf file as an image. That won't work because pdfs aren't images.
     
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    Well that explains that! so thank you!
     
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    http://www.bordertelegraph.com/news/15657774.Bus_bursts_into_flames_in_A7_lay_by/?ref=fbshr

    Bus in Question: MetroCity 11704 YJ17FWU

     

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