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soup6

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Using a ticket where break of journey is permitted, is it permissible to break the journey at one station and resume further down the line? For instance, on a Penzance to Plymouth journey would it be allowable to get off a train at Camborne and rejoin a later train at Redruth? To take an extreme case, could one break an Edinburgh to London journey at Drem and rejoin at Stevenage? In practice I am looking at adjacent stations where the calling patterns of trains mean that it would be more convenient to skip a few miles of the rail journey.
 
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Probably nobody thought of it when making the rules, but I can't see any method of enforcing it, nor why anyone would want to enforce it, so provided BoJ is permitted and the two stations are on a Permitted Route I can't see any problem with this.
 

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I do this all the time: breaking my journey at Hellifield and then recommencing at Clitheroe. More out of necessity than choice, as the train service between the two stations is somewhat sparse!
 

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That is fine. The only thing I would say is not allowed is breaking and resuming at stations that are not on the same permitted route. e.g. You couldn't use a London Terminals to Cambridge ticket to travel Liverpool St to Bishop Stortford, and then resume by travelling Royston to Cambridge.
 
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In Cornwall there's just one route

But take Edinburgh to London. You could do Edinburgh to York, then on a different day Birmingham to London. In all cases you aren't duplicating stations and are on a valid route.

However wouldn't the same presumably apply to Edinburgh to potters bar, then Carlisle to Euston?
 

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But take Edinburgh to London. You could do Edinburgh to York, then on a different day Birmingham to London. In all cases you aren't duplicating stations and are on a valid route.

However wouldn't the same presumably apply to Edinburgh to potters bar, then Carlisle to Euston?
Whilst in both above cases the journeys may be at all times on a permitted route, the thing that would render them 'illegal' is that the journey sectors are not on the same permitted route. Whilst it may be acceptable to break a journey and start a bit further along the route, the principal of remaining on the same permitted route must apply, just as it does if the whole journey is undertaken by train.
 

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Whilst in both above cases the journeys may be at all times on a permitted route, the thing that would render them 'illegal' is that the journey sectors are not on the same permitted route.
I think there are permitted routes Edinburgh - York - Birmingham - London. It appears that Edinburgh - York - Birmingham - London is no longer a mapped, permitted route.

There are no permitted routes Edinburgh - Potters Bar - Carlisle - Euston.
 
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If it's a permitted route to go via all places, then yes.

However discretion & common sense may be applied, for example Oscar and I once wanted to go from Hull to York at a time when there was no sensibly timed through train or connection at Selby. We had our bikes. There was ample time to cycle to Sherburn in Elmet to get into York earlier. I indicated our wish to do this to the Guard, who was more than happy for us to do it. In fact I think he was impressed at the idea. At no point were we off permitted routes, but there is no recognised interchange between the stations so we were effectively combining two routes.

In a more extreme case, I've even been allowed to travel York to Scarborough on a Whitby ticket with my bike, when explaining I was cycling the old disused railway line!

But in both the above examples the staff could simply say no.
 
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