Buying ranger/rover tickets

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  1. philthetube

    philthetube Established Member

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    Two questions

    Is there a list of all the codes available to make it easier to buy these, and is there a list of which of the tickets which include other modes of transport are available to use with a priv as not all are?
     
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  3. _toommm_

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    The codes can be found on brfares.com. it has them on its Rangers and Rovers section e.g. the 7-Day All Line Rover is I661.

    I'll leave the priv part to another forum member as I'd hate to misinform you.
     
  4. 221129

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    Check the BRFares Ranger and Rover site. If PRIV isn't valid then it should return No fares found.
     
  5. philthetube

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    I have tried this on all line rover and Spirit of scotland 4 from 8, both or which I know can be bought with a priv and on both these it comes up with invalid railcard entered.
     
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    Really? It works for me...
     
  7. marcouk2

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    Invalid railcard means that the railcard hasn't been entered correctly, it should show PRV STAFF TRAVEL CARD in the railcard/discount box.

    Just type in 'prv' and select the drop down option.

    See: http://www.brfares.com/#!rovers?nlc=J176&rlc=PRV
     
  8. philthetube

    philthetube Established Member

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    Thanks for that, much appreciated.
     
  9. philthetube

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    Have followed the above advice sucessfully until last week when I wanted to buy a
    Heart of Wales Circular Day Ranger,
    copy and pasted to ensure no mistakes as when I checked it on BRfares it came up with "invalid rover name specified"

    I was checking this as I was told at Llanelli that a priv fare was not available on this ticket, which may well be correct, however I cannot check as this ticket appears not to exist, at least as far as BRfares are concerned, cold anyone please let me know if I am being stupid or if there is something else going on?

    Cheers in anticipation.
     
  10. Starmill

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    It's there for me. I439 HOWCIRC DAY RNGR
     
  11. ForTheLoveOf

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    Is it even possible to buy rangers and rovers online or are they strictly ticket office only?
     
  12. robbeech

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    Didn’t you used to buy SOME of them online from GWR?

    I know additionally some new LO machines will sell them.
     
  13. Rover

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    GWR sell some online including the "all line":
    http://tickets.gwr.com/gw/en/journeyplanning/roversandrangers
    Southern Daysave can be bought online:
    https://ticket.southernrailway.com/search/other/daysave
    Southeastern Kent Rover can be bought online:
    https://ticket.southeasternrailway.co.uk/search/other/roversrangers
    Scotrail used to sell three of theirs online until Abellio took over and stopped it.
    Also TPE's North of England Rover:
    http://tickets.tpexpress.co.uk/tpe/en/JourneyPlanning/roversandrangers

    www.railrover.org gives the ticket issuing codes for each rover/ranger where known, for example the OP's Heart of Wales Circular Day Ranger

    There does not seem to be any enthusiasm for the majority of TOC's to sell rovers online.
     
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  14. philthetube

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    Cheers for that, obv not available for priv.
    How am I supposed to know I need to check HOWCIRC DAY RNGR and not the full name?
     
  15. robbeech

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    The same way you check lots of things on the railway. With difficulty.
     
  16. RJ

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    From the NFM29 public release - the rovers one can get a Priv discount on.

    From my experience as a ticket seller, each ticket issuing system is different. With some, the issuer needs to go into a menu and find the rover by either the "Description" or the "Location" whilst other software will need the "NLC"/"Location" to be typed into the destination field in Anywhere to Anywhere mode.

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    Rover Code	Description                             	NLC 	Location        	Class	Restriction Code	 Fare   
    14R       	ALL LINE ROVER 14DAY                    	I662	FRM OF BRIT.14DY	1    	AL              	 £294.75 
    14R       	ALL LINE ROVER 14DAY                    	I662	FRM OF BRIT.14DY	2    	AL              	 £193.00 
    R07       	ALL LINE ROVER 7DAY                     	I661	FRM OF BRIT 7DY 	1    	AL              	 £193.00 
    R07       	ALL LINE ROVER 7DAY                     	I661	FRM OF BRIT 7DY 	2    	AL              	 £127.50 
    AP3       	ANGLIA PLUS 3 DAYS IN 7                 	K285	ANGLIA PLUS     	2    	B4              	 £9.50 
    AP1       	ANGLIA PLUS DAY RANGER                  	K285	ANGLIA PLUS     	2    	B4              	 £4.75 
    BVT       	BICESTER VILLAGE DAY RANGER             	H921	BICESTER VIL BUS	2    	4Y              	 £11.40 
    CCD       	CAMBRIAN COASTER DAY RANGER             	I395	EXPLORE CAMBRIAN	2    	B2              	 £3.25 
    FF7       	CENTRAL SCOTLAND ROVER                  	J450	CENTRALSCOTROVER	2    	8F              	 £9.75 
    CVP       	CHERWELL DIDCOT DAY RANGER              	I078	CHERWLL BAN-DIDT	2    	                	 £1.35 
    CVO       	CHERWELL OXFORD DAY RANGER              	I079	CHERWLL BAN-OXFD	2    	                	 £0.80 
    CVR       	CHERWELL READING DAY RANGER             	I080	CHERWLL BAN-RDNG	2    	                	 £1.90 
    CED       	CHESHIRE DAY RGR                        	I351	CHESHIRE DAY RGR	2    	B4              	 £5.95 
    CE1       	COTSWOLDS 1DAY                          	I257	COTSWOLD 1-DAY  	2    	CE              	 £2.50 
    C48       	CST PKS 4IN8 RVR                        	I113	CST PKS 4-8 RVR 	2    	B4              	 £19.25 
    CAM       	CUMBRIA DAY RANGER                      	I021	CUMBRIA DAY RGR 	2    	A1              	 £11.15 
    CRR       	CUMBRIA RNDN RBN                        	I365	CUMBRIA RND RBN 	2    	A1              	 £7.75 
    CUC       	CUMBRIAN COAST DAY RANGER               	I366	CUMBRIAN CST RGR	2    	A1              	 £5.05 
    DER       	DEVON EVENING RANGER                    	I384	DEVON EVNING RGR	2    	DO              	 £1.50 
    TSA       	DEVON RANGER                            	I857	DEVON RANGER    	2    	B3              	 £3.10 
    EY9       	E YORKS R ROBIN                         	I455	E YORKS R ROBIN 	2    	B4              	 £6.20 
    EM1       	EAST MIDLANDS DAY RANGER                	I165	EAST MIDS DAYRGR	2    	B3              	 £9.35 
    E37       	EAST MIDLANDS ROVER 3 DAYSIN 7          	I115	E MIDS FLEX RVR 	2    	B3              	 £21.35 
    EM7       	EAST MIDLANDS ROVER 7 DAYS              	I775	E MIDLANDS 7 DAY	2    	B3              	 £27.75 
    VDR       	EXPLORE CARDIFF & VALLEYS               	I494	EXPLORE CDF VL  	2    	B2              	 £3.25 
    W37       	EXPLORE NORTH WALES                     	H515	NMIDWALES 4IN8  	2    	B1              	 £17.25 
    SW3       	EXPLORE SOUTH WALES                     	H746	SOUTH WALES 4IN8	2    	B1              	 £17.25 
    ECC       	EXPLORE THE CAPITAL                     	I512	EXPLORE CDF CAP 	2    	AW              	 £1.15 
    SW4       	EXPLORE WALES                           	H743	WALES PASS 4IN8 	2    	B1              	 £24.75 
    D07       	FODC ROVER 3 IN 7                       	I650	FODC ROVER 3IN7 	2    	B3              	 £12.70 
    D37       	FODC ROVER 8 IN 15 DAYS                 	I659	FODC ROVER8IN15 	2    	B3              	 £20.50 
    S37       	FOSS ROVER 3 IN 7 DAYS                  	I863	FOSS ROVER 3 IN7	2    	B3              	 £15.30 
    WR7       	FOSS ROVER 8IN 15 DAYS                  	I862	FOSS ROVER 8IN15	2    	B3              	 £20.50 
    TSR       	FOSW ROVER 3 IN 7 DAYS                  	I855	FOSW ROVER 3IN7 	2    	B3              	 £25.70 
    SW7       	FOSW ROVER 8 IN 15 DAYS                 	I621	FOSW ROVER 8IN15	2    	B3              	 £36.00 
    TV1       	HADRIANS WALL COUNTRY LINE              	I299	HADRIANS W CNTRY	2    	B4              	 £5.45 
    HE7       	HEART OF ENGLAND ROVER 7 DAYS           	I664	HT OF ENGLAND 7D	2    	B3              	 £28.00 
    H37       	HEART OF ENGLAND RVR 3DAYSIN7           	I122	HT ENG RVR 3IN7 	2    	B3              	 £21.60 
    TSV       	HEART OF WESSEX RANGER                  	I858	HT OF WSX RANGER	2    	YZ              	 £5.20 
    WH8       	HIGHLAND ROVER                          	H263	HIGHLAND ROVER  	2    	                	 £21.30 
    KDR       	KENNET DAY RANGER                       	I784	KENNET DAY RGR  	2    	B1              	 £3.10 
    LDR       	LANCASHIRE DAY RANGER                   	I065	LANCS DAY RANGER	2    	B4              	 £5.95 
    LD1       	LINCOLNSHIRE DAY RANGER                 	I383	LINCS DAY RANGER	2    	B3              	 £7.10 
    NDD       	NORTH DOWNS DAY RANGER                  	I358	NTH DOWNS DY RGR	2    	B3              	 £4.30 
    NE8       	NORTH EAST 4 IN 8 DAY ROVER             	I743	FONE FLEXI RVR  	2    	B4              	 £25.25 
    NE7       	NORTH EAST 7 DAY ROVER                  	I803	FONE 7 DAY RVR  	2    	B4              	 £29.00 
    SR3       	NORTH EAST ROUND ROBIN                  	I152	NORTH EAST RND R	2    	B4              	 £12.45 
    NER       	NORTH ENGLAND 4 IN 8 DAY ROVER          	I447	NTH ENGLAND RVR 	2    	I1              	 £19.75 
    NMW       	NORTH WALES ALL ZONE                    	H522	N WALES ALL ZNER	2    	                	 £6.85 
    N37       	NORTH WEST 4 IN 8 DAY ROVER             	I120	FONW 4IN8DAY RVR	2    	B4              	 £19.25 
    NW7       	NORTH WEST 7 DAY ROVER                  	I772	FONW 7 DAY RVR  	2    	B4              	 £23.00 
    NWR       	NORTH WEST ROUND ROBIN                  	I465	NTHWST RND ROBIN	2    	B4              	 £9.85 
    NC8       	NORTHCOUNTRY ROVER 4 DAYS IN 8          	I744	N CNTRY FLEXIRVR	2    	B4              	 £24.00 
    OEO       	OXFORD EVENING OUT                      	I464	OXFORD EVE OUT  	2    	OX              	 £1.00 
    ODR       	OXFORDSHIRE DAY RANGER                  	I432	OXFD DAY RGR    	2    	B1              	 £4.30 
    SCU       	SETTLE & CARLISLE LINE                  	I733	SETT-CARL RANGER	2    	B4              	 £7.75 
    SPD       	SOUTH PENNINES DAY RANGER               	I466	SOUTH PENNIES DR	2    	B4              	 £5.95 
    ST9       	SPIRIT OF SCOTLAND 4FROM8               	J176	SRT OF SCOT 4-8 	2    	A1              	 £34.75 
    ST8       	SPIRIT OF SCOTLAND 8DAYSIN15            	J170	SRT OF SCOT 8-15	2    	                	 £44.75 
    SID       	ST IVES LINE DAY                        	I294	ST IVES LINE DAY	2    	A1              	 £1.00 
    TBR       	THAMES BRANCHES DAY RANGER              	I066	THAMES BRANCHES 	2    	T3              	 £5.20 
    TR3       	THAMES ROVER 3 DAYS                     	I367	THAMES ROVER    	2    	B1              	 £12.70 
    TR7       	THAMES ROVER 7 DAYS                     	I367	THAMES ROVER    	2    	B1              	 £23.10 
    TTD       	TYNE & TEES DAY RANGER                  	I875	TYNE & TEES     	2    	B4              	 £5.70 
    WM1       	WEST MIDLANDS DAY RANGER                	I274	WEST MIDS DAYRGR	2    	B3              	 £6.60 
    
     
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  17. RJ

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    That's the railway's preferred way of doing things. Ticket issuers have to try and match the public name of the rover with either the ticket description or the location description.
    As can be seen from the table above, this isn't exactly made easy for the average seller.
     
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    Useful thanks. TVMs in GWR land don’t sell rovers or rangers, so useful to know I can buy online and collect as penalty fare station I start from the RPIs take convincing I couldn’t buy my ticket/ticket office not manned!
     
  19. Silver Cobra

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    AFAIW, you can only have rovers purchased through GWR's website sent by post; they can't be collected via ToD. When I bought my 7-day ALR back in 2016, I only had the option for it to be posted to my address. Checking now, it only offers being sent by first class post or next-day delivery.
     
  20. brtom

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    Which explains why I couldn't buy a Cherwell Valley for the Saturday on Friday. It must have been too close to the time for delivery.
     
  21. Rover

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    These are the only rovers and rangers you can currently buy online:

    GWR sell the following:
    All Line Rover
    Cherwell Valley Day Ranger
    Cotswold Discoverer
    Devon Day Ranger
    Devon Evening Ranger
    Freedom of Devon & Cornwall
    Freedom of Severn & Solent
    Freedom of the South West
    Heart of Wessex Day Ranger
    Kennet Day Ranger
    North Downs Day Ranger
    Oxford Evening Out
    Oxfordshire Day Ranger
    Ride Cornwall
    St Ives Bay Line Day Ranger
    Thames Rover
    Thames Branches Day Ranger
    Valley Lines Day Explorer
    http://tickets.gwr.com/gw/en/journeyplanning/roversandrangers
    Tickets are sent by 1st class post free of charge, they are not available TOD from stations. Tickets need to be purchased 5 days in advance or 2 days if you opt for special delivery at a cost of £6.

    Southern sell:
    All Line Rover
    Southern Daysave:
    https://ticket.southernrailway.com/search/other/daysave
    Tickets are either sent by 1st class post or collected TOD from a Southern station. Tickets need to be purchased 3 days in advance for TOD and 5 days in advance for posting.

    TPE sell:
    North of England Rover:
    http://tickets.tpexpress.co.uk/tpe/en/JourneyPlanning/roversandrangers
    Tickets are sent by 1st class post free of charge, they are not available TOD from stations. Tickets need to be purchased 5 days in advance or 2 days in advance if you opt for special delivery at a cost of £6.

    Southeastern sell:
    Kent Rover
    All Line Rover
    https://ticket.southeasternrailway.co.uk/search/other/roversrangers
    Tickets are sent by 1st class post free of charge, they are not available TOD from stations. Tickets need to be purchased 5 days in advance or the previous day if you opt for next day delivery at a cost of £6.
     
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    Does anyone have a link that works for Devon & Cornwall Rover tickets?
    I’m selecting the one I want on the GWR website but when I try to buy it keeps returning “Safari cannot open the page because too many redirects occurred”. Having a problem on Firefox too - it can’t even show me the one I want (3 days in 7 with a senior railcard, commencing 5th July).

    Perhaps I’m too early, but it isn’t telling me that.

    Edited for future readers - I was on an iPhone. Much more success on a MacBook, although I still ended up buying from SWR website as it was simple compared to the others I tried.
     
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  23. Silver Cobra

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    Are you trying to purchase the rover through a web browser on a mobile device? I had this same issue when trying to purchase the All Line Rover I used last year from GWR's website using Google Chrome on my phone. After enabling the 'request desktop website' option within Chrome's settings, the transaction worked correctly.

    Checking Safari on my iPad, it seems the browser lacks this option. As such, I'd suggest using Chrome instead. Firefox may have this option as well, but as I don't have it installed I can't say for sure.
     
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    I tried SWR as well, didn't get very far at all. Thanks folks, I'm home now so can have a go on my MacBook, using a different browser to Safari if it proves necessary.

    Good to know it sounds like these tickets are still available anyway - the NRE info on them doesn't seem to have been updated since 2017.
     
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    Thank you - tried on the SWR website and it worked fine :D .
     
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    Tap and hold the 'refresh' icon on Safari to load a desktop version.
     
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    That’s good to know for future reference :)
     
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    Virgin Trains ticket machines sell various Manchester based tickets such as the Manchester Wayfarer for instance, ignore the message that comes up saying that the machine does not sell rangers and rovers though!
    Sam
     
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    Without seeing the first screen in front of me,how would I proceed on a Virgin ticket machine ..
     
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    That irritates me sometimes about sites on the internet when sites ( not always to do with trains and railways )are not updated. I know its all about getting the right people to do the updates, but surely important sites like NRE should give it a priority ?
     

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