Calais to Paris High Speed Line?

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Does anyone know if the proposed new high speed line from Calais to Paris, avoiding Lille is still going to happen? Don't know what it was going to be called.

I find a potential journey time from London to Paris in 1hr 50mins quite a prospect if this ever were to happen.

Are there any substantial new high speed lines being built in France or the rest of Europe atm?
 
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I think this must be the Amiens cut-off you are thinking of. No idea if it will ever happen, though - it's very much a long term plan and there just isn't the money available at the moment.
 

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I believe the Amiens cut-off is in the provisional plan for around 2025-2028. The next LGV I think is the Atlantique extension beyond Le Mans, and after that closing the gap between Perpignan and Montpellier.
 

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The RFF website has excellent details of all the new line projects, available in English.

Two lines under construction now, the extension of LGV Est to Strasbourg and the Nimes-Montpellier bypass. Another two funded and about to start: the LGV SE Atlantique (Tours - Bordeaux) and the LGV Bretagne- Pays de Loire from Le Mans to Rennes.

Several others in detailed planning, including Montpellier -Perpignan, Poitiers-Limoges, LGV PACA to Nice, and the West / South branches of the LGV Rhin-Rhone.

The LGVs south of Bordeaux to Tououse and Irun are in the early stages of planning, roughly similar to where HS2 was 2 years ago. Interestingly, if you drive down the A62 from Bordeaux to Toulouse you will see signs everywhere saying LGV NON! Anyone know French for NIMBY?
 
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with the line to Irun, presumably this (rather than via Barcelona) will be the faster Paris-Madrid route once the Spanish lines are completed as well? At the momennt the lines in spanish Euskadi are all either broad or narrow gauge. I wonder what sort of regular journey time will be achievable on that route- and also for London-Madrid, once the southern interconnection around Paris is built.
 

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with the line to Irun, presumably this (rather than via Barcelona) will be the faster Paris-Madrid route once the Spanish lines are completed as well? At the momennt the lines in spanish Euskadi are all either broad or narrow gauge. I wonder what sort of regular journey time will be achievable on that route- and also for London-Madrid, once the southern interconnection around Paris is built.
It will be the quickest route Paris - Madrid. Journey time about 5 1/2 hrs (8hrs London) depending on stops.

Although I hear from a chum working on the feasibility that RFF/SNCF are going cold on the idea of the southern Paris link.
 

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I can't wait for the Montpellier - Perpignan link, it will connect up the network very nicely.

What would be the journey time from Paris to Barcelona I wonder?
 

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I can't wait for the Montpellier - Perpignan link, it will connect up the network very nicely.

What would be the journey time from Paris to Barcelona I wonder?
About 4h15 if it was non-stop, which is unlikely, so expect it to be nearer 5h. But it's at least a decade away.

There's still a lot of work to do on the Spanish side, rumours are that the opening planned for this December will be missed.
 
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