Cambrian Storm Damage / Conwy Valley Flooding 02/20

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  1. CambrianCoast

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  3. Y Ddraig Coch

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    I took a trip out to take a look at the Conwy valley.

    It isn't ĺooking great and the new Dolgarrog is, well , erm..look
     

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    Was not some of the work this time for resilience i.e. to mean that once it's all drained it'll just take a quick cleanup to get it all back in service?
     
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    Local reports say the new culverts have held up well. I'm sure we'll know more in the morning if there is any more damage
     
  6. CambrianCoast

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    Gosh not again! Thanks for sharing :)
     
  7. CambrianCoast

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    There’s apparently a test train to be run from Machynlleth to Pwllheli this evening. This is shown on Real Time Trains. Not sure how it’s going to get to Pwllheli with the debris at Afonwen. It’s reported that there are two 158s in Pwllheli. Wonder what they’ll do with those if the damage is bad enough to shut the line for some time?
     
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    Send for 'Train Truckers' obvs!
     
  9. Bletchleyite

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    Or, assuming the damage is not between Pwllheli and whatever the next stop is, run a shuttle (with fuel etc trucked in) and a RRB in between the two halves.
     
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    Main line from Machynlleth to Shrewsbury reopened this morning.
     
  11. Belperpete

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    A shuttle from Pwllheli isn't going far if the line is closed at Afonwen.

    They ran shuttles when Barmouth bridge was closed, if I recall correctly. However, they haven't run shuttles for recent closures. I suppose once you have got everyone onto the bus, it is quicker and easier to take them all the way, rather than have to turf them out again and back onto a train.
     
  12. Baxenden Bank

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    You recall correctly.
    The following site has some notes and photographs.
    https://2d53.co.uk/cambriancoast/Pwllheli - 26-12-80.htm
     
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    As an amusing sideline, what is it about "Bletchleyite having plans to use the Conwy Valley soon" and "the Conwy Valley being closed"...I'm not having much luck with it of late! :D
     
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    Replacement bus it is then! :(

    Good to hear it's minor damage, though - the work has in that case been successful.
     
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    TFW Journey Check updated to say that Conwy Valley still being assessed and Cambrian Coast and Aberystwyth unlikely to be re-opened before Monday, 16th February.
     
  17. Sheridan

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    I heard (can’t comment on the reliability) that a car had become stuck on the crossing west of Penrhyndeudraeth yesterday at high tide, with its electronic handbrake unable to be released as a result of water damage. However, with the line already closed there was no impact and I’m sure it wouldn’t have taken long to get it removed.
     
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    At least thie Vivatrains haven't made it there yet!
     
  19. CambrianCoast

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    The car was on the main road heading towards Harlech, not far from the station. It was a red Jag, had to be left overnight until the water had receded.
     
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    A press release on Network Rail's website (published yesterday) includes this image of the Cambrian Coast line:
    Cambrian Line 4.jpg
    That track's going to need some serious reinforcement against any further coastal erosion (and there's another storm due this weekend...)
     
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    ‘Transport for Wales is currently operating bus rail replacement services between Machynlleth and Aberystwyth and between Machynlleth and Pwllheli. Both lines remain closed until further notice.’

    Until further notice.....let’s hope they can get it done before the Easter half term! Although I’m sure Lloyd’s coaches will be doing well out of it in the mean time!
     
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    One gathers there are some washouts on the Conwy Valley AGAIN. ...any local information.

    This line is a veritable "money pit".
     
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    There must be a point when it just becomes too costly to repair the line which seems to be at least once every year lately.
     
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    No! Just use it to pioneer big concrete piers and standardised bridging beams / deck sections for wider use elsewhere. After installing a few of these the problem will go away...
     
  25. CambrianCoast

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    In terms of the Cambrian, taking into accounts many vulnerable coastal parts, in fairness, it’s been relatively hassle free other than the odd occasion over the last 30 years.
     
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    The train manager on my Avanti service this evening claimed that the bus replacement service was from Dovey Junction - which would be novel.
     
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    Imagine dumping passengers at Dovey Jn to wait for a bus at this time of night at this time of year and with the road remote from the station
     
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    RTT is showing a train service at Pwllheli from Saturday onwards. Is that realistic?
     
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    No. TFW will be updating on a day by day/s basis as information becomes available.
     
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    Any idea how long the reopening will take?
     
  31. Glenn1969

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    I guess they will be hoping Storm Dennis doesn't do more damage and delay reopenings
     

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