Camden Road > Stratford > Maryland

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  1. Howardh

    Howardh Established Member

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    Camden Rd > Stratford (ordinary sta) is £4.80 anytime single.
    Camden Rd > Maryland (change at Stratford) is £2.90 anytime single.
    Both are zone 2 > 3, both same time departures :roll:.

    Can't understand why further is cheaper, but if those prices are right, am I entitled to get off at Stratford if I get the Maryland ticket and walk to my hotel?

    Darned sight cheaper than a day travelcard and probably cheaper than using Oyster!

    Or is there a catch??
     
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    There is a zonal fare structure in London for point to point paper tickets. There are multiple tariffs as there are with Oyster's zonal fares. Journeys which are expected to take place wholly on Overground services are priced under their own tariff, which is expensive for paper tickets, but very cheap on Oyster or CPC. It's not advertised as a zonal system however and it's open to abuse because of the way that permitted routes work. If people clocked onto this, they could save a lot of money on season tickets into London Terminals for some journeys. But that's a topic for another day.

    If you choose to buy paper tickets, you can circumvent the more expensive LO tariff by buying to a station that isn't served by London Overground, precisely as you have done in your example. Cricklewood to Stratford London via Hackney Wick would also have worked.
     
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    MikeWh Established Member Senior Fares Advisor

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    It's the difference of who sets the fare. Yes, you can get off at Stratford on the Maryland ticket as there are no break of journey restrictions on an Anytime single. Yes it's cheaper than a travelcard. No it's not cheaper than Oyster or CPC. Camden Road to Stratford is £1.70 peak or £1.50 off-peak.
     
  4. Howardh

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    I'll do it then! But I'll do the return from Maryland.

    I suppose it's just another entry in the "Bizarre British Ticketing" book, but without the internet there's no way I would have found that out; would have ended up getting a day Travelcard or an expensive Euston - Maryland tube/rail ticket.

    One day I will get a visitor Oyster - but not for two single trips.

    Walk from Euston - Camden and have a nice cheap rail trip, and save about three pint's worth on the return fare. Cheers!!
     
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    You don't have to get a Visitor Oyster. A normal blue Oyster is better and the £5 deposit can be refunded whereas the £3 Visitor Oyster charge is not. Neither Oyster will lose any credit and can be used next time you're in London. Even better, if you have a contactless payment card then use that. Fares are the same as Oyster adult fares and you don't need to do anything special before using one. Only if your bank is a foreign one which charges currency conversion fees would a CPC not be advisable.
     
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    I've been looking into Oyster and come across "contactless" cards which come out at the same price as Oyster (so why have Oyster then??).

    BUT never used a contactless card - up here we still pay with eggs and potatoes - but as my card does have the contactless symbol that's what I intend to do from Euston.

    How do you use it - I know you tap in and out, but which side of the card do you show and how do you know it's accepted? Has there ever been occasion when it's been accepted going in but not coming out?

    Thanks, sorry if it's obvious to you as you use it all the time!
     
  7. CheapAndNerdy

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    Oyster has been around much longer than contactless, but there are some things that contactless can't do: rail card discounts for example.

    It might depend on who issues your card, but for mine I had to make a least one chip and pin purchase before the contactless function was enabled.

    On approach to an oyster gateline/post, there will be a lit LED. Orange means 'ready and waiting'. Red means not in use (perhaps because it is configured for passengers approaching from the other side of the gateline).

    Simply tap/waft the end of the card with the contactless symbol on the yellow oyster pad. If all is good then there is a beep and green LED lights up. The gate (if there is one) will open. If there is a problem, a red LED lights up. DO NOT PROCEED. Quite often, in this latter case, waiting for orange and then retrying will result in a green light.

    It is important to observe the green light, especially if there is no gate, or the gate is locked open (usually due to no member of staff being available).
     
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