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Can I use an advanced ticket to "London Underground Zone 1" on the underground not from the national rail station on the itinerary?

hvshe

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Sorry for the unclear title.
I am booking a ticket to London Underground Zone 1 with a 16-17 saver, and I'm seeing if I could use the London Underground leg on another journey of the day.

The train on my itinerary heads to London Paddington, and I used Charing Cross as my placeholder destination.
On the day, I plan to catch the train to Paddington, then cycle to Imperial College with boris bikes, after that I would catch the tube to Leicester Square from South Kensington. Will I be allowed to use the ticket between South Kensington and Leicester Square or do I have to pay separately with Oyster?[of which I will be paying an adult fare as I don't plan on visiting London within a year to justify applying for a 16-17 Oyster]

Many thanks!
 
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AlbertBeale

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Sorry for the unclear title.
I am booking a ticket to London Underground Zone 1 with a 16-17 saver, and I'm seeing if I could use the London Underground leg on another journey of the day.

The train on my itinerary heads to London Paddington, and I used Charing Cross as my placeholder destination.
On the day, I plan to catch the train to Paddington, then cycle to Imperial College with boris bikes, after that I would catch the tube to Leicester Square from South Kensington. Will I be allowed to use the ticket between South Kensington and Leicester Square or do I have to pay separately with Oyster?[of which I will be paying an adult fare as I don't plan on visiting London within a year to justify applying for a 16-17 Oyster]

Many thanks!

Although your ticket is for a continuation of a rail journey to an Underground destination, rather than a cross-London tube transfer between successive legs of a journey, I imagine similar rules apply to the Underground part - namely that you can only enter the tube system at a station close to a mainline terminal (though exiting is not constrained).

Anyway - from Imperial to Leicester Square is an easy trip on a "Boris bike"... And, depending on what deal you use on that system, it might not add anything to the cost you've already incurred for Paddington-Imperial.
 

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If the location printed on the ticket London Underground Zone 1, I'm pretty sure that any gateline within Zone 1 will allow you to enter and any will allow you to exit. The point of the ticket is that it allows travel into London, plus one journey on the Tube within the stated zones.

Entering through the gateline writes a piece of data on the magstripe to say that the tube journey has been used, so it won't open another gateline in the future.
 

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If the location printed on the ticket London Underground Zone 1, I'm pretty sure that any gateline within Zone 1 will allow you to enter and any will allow you to exit. The point of the ticket is that it allows travel into London, plus one journey on the Tube within the stated zones.

Entering through the gateline writes a piece of data on the magstripe to say that the tube journey has been used, so it won't open another gateline in the future.

Is this definitely the case?

If so, then they're more flexible than the cross-London use of a through ticket on the underground. The latter allow (in theory, though some TfL staff seem not to realise) exit within Zone 1, even if not at the main line interchange; but are restricted to starting the underground journey at a recognised BR-TfL connection.
 

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Is this definitely the case?

If so, then they're more flexible than the cross-London use of a through ticket on the underground. The latter allow (in theory, though some TfL staff seem not to realise) exit within Zone 1, even if not at the main line interchange; but are restricted to starting the underground journey at a recognised BR-TfL connection.
Yes, cross-London tickets with a Maltese cross are only valid to start the transfer at a recognised NR interchange station. Tickets issued to specified Underground zones are valid to start and (at least arguably) finish the journey at any Underground station in the relevant zones.
 

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