Canon or Fuji ?

[5872]

martyn29 suggested I make this poll , as it says on the tin ^^^ which?.

 

[thefab444]

Looks like its neither as Fred is now not getting a camera. Why do I get a feeling of "I told you so"?

JS

 

[5872]

Looks like its neither as Fred is now not getting a camera. Why do I get a feeling of "I told you so"?

JS

Got no idea , looks like the overexcitedness got me:roll: , what a shame.... .

 

[Beaker]

''English Jim , but not as we know it.''

 

[5872]

''English Jim , but not as we know it.''

Im now told the Fuji S5700 is a bad choicehock:. Anyone know why?.

 

[devon_metro]

You want to zoom in and out on videos. With the S5700 you cannot!

 

[5872]

You want to zoom in and out on videos. With the S5700 you cannot!

You can.

Can somone give me a list of things that are wrong with the Fuji S5700 , Please?



Thanks fred.

 

[thefab444]

There are many reasons, one of which is the worse than average purple fringing.

You cannot zoom in/out whilst recording movies on the S5600, I'm not sure if you actually can on the S5700, strangley enough I don't know of anyone who has it!

 

[devon_metro]

The popularity of the 6500 shows it IS a good camera. I don't know of anybody that has the 5700.

Speaks for itself

 

[5872]

There are many reasons, one of which is the worse than average purple fringing.

You cannot zoom in/out whilst recording movies on the S5600, I'm not sure if you actually can on the S5700, strangley enough I don't know of anyone who has it!

I know somone with it and a few other people. It dosent have alot of purple fringing. It dose video zoom which is an added bonus.

 

[devon_metro]

And so does the 6500 without draining your battery! How do you know it doesn't have purple fringing?

 

[5872]

And so does the 6500 without draining your battery! How do you know it doesn't have purple fringing?

Ive seen loads of reviews , pictures , and zooming video and the batterys last.

 

[devon_metro]

I quote:

The only weak point of the otherwise excellent S5600 was image quality, but the S5700 addresses all of the issues raised by that camera. Since it has no image stabilisation the S5700 relies on its high-ISO capability to provide a fast enough shutter speed to make the long zoom viable, and it certainly scores well in this area, although it’s not quite up to the levels of some other Fuji cameras. It uses a conventional 1/2.5-in CCD rather than Fuji’s own SuperCCD technology, and so it does suffer from some high-ISO noise, but pictures are still good up to 800 ISO, which is a pretty fair performance. However at 1600 ISO the image quality is quite poor, with serious colour noise problems. Unfortunately the "Anti-shake" mode sets this speed automatically, so it's best to avoid this option. Aside from that, overall image quality is excellent, with good exposure and colour rendition, and very good overall sharpness. The lens does produce quite bad barrel distortion at the wide-angle end, but makes up for it by providing tons of sharp detail right across the frame. The only bum note is that usual Fujifilm bugbear, massive purple fringes on all high-contrast edges. I really wish Fuji would solve this problem, because it is the only real fault with what is otherwise a superb camera.

 

[thefab444]

As someone said when I was discussing the S5700, the S5600 was a pro-sumer model with advanced features, whereas the S5700 is more aimed at being an expensive toy for people who otherwise know very little at photography. Not that it can't take good pictures, but things like it doesn't have RAW when the S5600 and S6500 do, and the the styling suggest it's gone 'down market'. It's as if they decided "We can cut features out to save money as long as it has a high number of megapixels to sell it to rookies".

My 2p,
JS

 

[5872]

I quote:

The only weak point of the otherwise excellent S5600 was image quality, but the S5700 addresses all of the issues raised by that camera. Since it has no image stabilisation the S5700 relies on its high-ISO capability to provide a fast enough shutter speed to make the long zoom viable, and it certainly scores well in this area, although it’s not quite up to the levels of some other Fuji cameras. It uses a conventional 1/2.5-in CCD rather than Fuji’s own SuperCCD technology, and so it does suffer from some high-ISO noise, but pictures are still good up to 800 ISO, which is a pretty fair performance. However at 1600 ISO the image quality is quite poor, with serious colour noise problems. Unfortunately the "Anti-shake" mode sets this speed automatically, so it's best to avoid this option. Aside from that, overall image quality is excellent, with good exposure and colour rendition, and very good overall sharpness. The lens does produce quite bad barrel distortion at the wide-angle end, but makes up for it by providing tons of sharp detail right across the frame. The only bum note is that usual Fujifilm bugbear, massive purple fringes on all high-contrast edges. I really wish Fuji would solve this problem, because it is the only real fault with what is otherwise a superb camera.

As someone said when I was discussing the S5700, the S5600 was a pro-sumer model with advanced features, whereas the S5700 is more aimed at being an expensive toy for people who otherwise know very little at photography. Not that it can't take good pictures, but things like it doesn't have RAW when the S5600 and S6500 do, and the the styling suggest it's gone 'down market'. It's as if they decided "We can cut features out to save money as long as it has a high number of megapixels to sell it to rookies".

My 2p,
JS

I still like it , and somone I know who has it , there pics have no purple fringin. Im not one for being good at photogrpahy. Its a nice camera. Dosent matter too much about RAW or a CCD. It looks fine for me and has video zoom.


My mind is made up for the while S5700 , besides the s6500fd I might brake it and I wouldnt want that.

 

[thefab444]

Ok, well if you want to waste your money, go ahead!

But don't you come crying to me if you buy it and find out how bad the purple fringing is.

JS

 

[Beaker]

Im not one for being good at photogrpahy.

That will be why your buying a brand new camera....

 

[Tom]

You might break whatever camera you get ... :roll:

 

[5872]

You might break whatever camera you get ... :roll:

Know what Im like , let me get a sample pic to show.


http://tynetransport.fotopic.net/p43426334.html - I cant see any purple fringing?


http://www.brooksies-photos.fpic.co.uk/p43482159.html - none there either

 

[devon_metro]

The report doesn't lie. The sample pictures show awful purple fringing and awful barrel distortion - unlike the 6500. I don't see why you like the 5700 so much :? It doesn't feature a Super CCD sensor like the 6500 and its a far worse camera than the 6500!

 

[Jim]

I know 4 people at least who have the 6500 and none have ever moaned about it!

 

[5872]

The report doesn't lie. The sample pictures show awful purple fringing and awful barrel distortion - unlike the 6500. I don't see why you like the 5700 so much :? It doesn't feature a Super CCD sensor like the 6500 and its a far worse camera than the 6500!

But its smaller , has 10xoptical , video zoom .

What do you want me to do , go without or get it?.

 

[thefab444]

The S6500 has 10.7x Optical Zoom, which can be used during video recording no problem and also doesn't waste battery when doing so. But, if you're set on buying a "lemon" then I suppose you can, don't see why we should stop you. As Liam said, the purple fringing is evident on the S5700 - and also the S6500 is tried and tested, loads of people have it, whereas the S5700 is a bit of a mystery, it's easy to invent people who have it in order to convince other people your decision to buy the cheaper camera is the right one, but at the end of the day (urgh) it is gonna be your camera!

Just a little more on the purple fringing, it occurs in high contrast areas; in both the photos you showed is evident around the gantry and overhead catenary at the top of the photo. It is also vaguely apparent at the bottom of the photo of the 91, where the white stripe on the platform is

JS

Nice one as ever Beaker!

 

[class 313]

Know what Im like , let me get a sample pic to show.


http://tynetransport.fotopic.net/p43426334.html - I cant see any purple fringing?


http://www.brooksies-photos.fpic.co.uk/p43482159.html - none there either

Purple fringing accurs most on full zoom...

 

[Tom]

www.dpreview.com - have a look at that Fred rather than observing fotopic sites ...

 

[5872]

www.dpreview.com - have a look at that Fred rather than observing fotopic sites ...

ive seen it , thanks anyway.

 

[devon_metro]

Heres the proof and look how distorted that wall is!

http://www.trustedreviews.com/digital-cameras/review/2007/07/20/Fujifilm-FinePix-S5700/p6

 

[thefab444]

Don't bother, I showed those photos to Fred last night and he said "They look fine to me".

 

[devon_metro]

I won't bother anymore

 

[5872]

Don't bother, I showed those photos to Fred last night and he said "They look fine to me".

I won't bother anymore

I know you wont liam , I cant find a camera I like really without the purple fringin or thingy. I will probably get this camera , or wait 4 months to the christmas deals come. But that means 4 months without a camera. That would drive me insanehock:.