Captrain Class 66

[Ash Bridge]

I have just witnessed a locomotive in this livery being hauled by an unidenfied ROG Class 37 between Reddish South Station and Ash Bridge Junction, the combination was moving quite rapidly hence the lack of ID. Realtime Trains appears to show this as 062M 1300 Hedon Road Sidings to Longport, does anyone know if this is a newly imported machine or does it belong to DBC or similar?

Thanks!

 

[Darandio]

It's over here for repairs I believe, down as 66999. Good photo here (not mine) for anyone wondering what it is.

 

[Ash Bridge]

Ah, cheers Darandio, so has it actually been shipped into Hull and if so from which country?

 

[Darandio]

I think Captrain is Dutch, hopefully someone else can confirm.

 

[Ash Bridge]

Many Thanks again!

 

[cj_1985]

Captrain is a subsidiary of SNCF (One of many... ie. VFLI).
They operate in Germany, Belgium and Scandenavia… to mention a few

 

[geoffk]

Captrain is a subsidiary of SNCF (One of many... ie. VFLI).
They operate in Germany, Belgium and Scandenavia… to mention a few

Came from Belgium, I think. It was pulled by 37611. Presumably it will go back the same way, after repairs.

 

[cj_1985]

if common sense had been used, perhaps hauling it through the tunnel along with the china clay, which IIRC comes from Belgium, or one of the trains from China/Duisburg to gateway
But i'm guessing the decision to move it via ferry has been financial. It was probably cheaper to get it lifted onto a road trailer and on the ferry into Hull, then forwarding to EMSI/EMD/PR at Longport by ROG

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I am pretty sure I saw online the other day that it's Captrain 6601, just in case anyone wants the Continental ID for it.

 

[Cowley]

I am pretty sure I saw online the other day that it's Captrain 6601, just in case anyone wants the Continental ID for it.

Mister Bridge will probably have to purchase an entirely new Platform 5 book for that one...

 

[causton]

I am pretty sure I saw online the other day that it's Captrain 6601, just in case anyone wants the Continental ID for it.

The photo in post #2 confirms that, the original number legible with 66999 above!

 

[mikemcniven]

The Captrain 66 was been hauled by ROG 37611 on 0Z43 1300 Hedon Road Sidings to Longport F.D. it has come across for repair work to be done at Longport, not too sure whats wrong with it however. I snapped it myself at Stockport, I have attached the photos below. It has been given UK number 66999 for while its over here for repairs

ROG 37611


Rail Operations Group 37611 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr

Captrain 66999 (266001/6601)


Captrain 266001 - 66999 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr


Captrain 66999 (266001) by Mike McNiven, on Flickr

 

[edwin_m]

I'm surprised they moved this by rail considering that non-standard moves like this generally go by road. Would it already have been on a road trailer to make the ferry crossing?

 

[TRAX]

The full registration of the machine is 92 88 0266 001-1 B-CTB so it is indeed from Belgium.

 

[Ash Bridge]

Thanks all for your responses folks, and excellent pictures there Mike! as others above and on another thread have said it really does seem crazy when there is a direct rail route that they should need to send it by sea. Out of interest would separate paperwork be required for its journey when passing through each intermediate country's rail networks had it been hauled by rail for the whole journey? When I observed it behind the Class 37 yesterday it certainly didn't seem to have any speed restriction placed on its movement as it went by at least as rapidly as any UK registered 66 would have been conveyed.

 

[E_Reeves]

The Captrain 66 was been hauled by ROG 37611 on 0Z43 1300 Hedon Road Sidings to Longport F.D. it has come across for repair work to be done at Longport, not too sure whats wrong with it however. I snapped it myself at Stockport, I have attached the photos below. It has been given UK number 66999 for while its over here for repairs

ROG 37611


Rail Operations Group 37611 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr

Captrain 66999 (266001/6601)


Captrain 266001 - 66999 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr


Captrain 66999 (266001) by Mike McNiven, on Flickr

Is that a person's reflection in the driver side window on the bottom photo?

 

[superalbs]

Is that a person's reflection in the driver side window on the bottom photo?

It'd certainly be a very tiny person if it were someone in the cab! :P

 

[cj_1985]

by the looks of it, from a few different pictures I've seen, the section of ladders/steps on the bogies have been removed

 

[Ash Bridge]

by the looks of it, from a few different pictures I've seen, the section of ladders/steps on the bogies have been removed

Yes I never noticed that before. When compared with UK 66 variants which appear to have the steps inset at bogie level the Belgian 66s seem to extend downwards at full width.

 

[childwallblues]

I understand that EMD Longport have a contract to repair Class 66 in Europe so we can expect more to come over.

 

[furnessvale]

I understand that EMD Longport have a contract to repair Class 66 in Europe so we can expect more to come over.

In which case, lets hope EMD and Eurotunnel can reach an agreement for a more sensible transfer of subsequent locos.

 

[DarloRich]

In which case, lets hope EMD and Eurotunnel can reach an agreement for a more sensible transfer of subsequent locos.

Sensible for whom? Using a ship might be very sensible for the people involved.

 

[Ash Bridge]

In which case, lets hope EMD and Eurotunnel can reach an agreement for a more sensible transfer of subsequent locos.

Indeed! When Deutsche Bahn transferred the class 92s to operate in Bulgaria and Romania they all made their way by rail a journey well over 1000 miles/Kms seemingly passing through numerous other nations networks on route, yet Belgium is literally next door to Britain and a sea transfer is required?

 

[DarloRich]

Indeed! When Deutsche Bahn transferred the class 92s to operate in Bulgaria and Romania they all made their way by rail a journey well over 1000 miles/Kms seemingly passing through numerous other nations networks on route, yet Belgium is literally next door to Britain and a sea transfer is required?

i have some very limited experience of trying to get things through the tunnel. It is not as easy and certainly not as straightforward as many here seem to assume. Honestly, sending things by ship is often easier.

I suspect that class 92 are regular runners through the tunnel and so didn't need any special consideration.

 

[Ash Bridge]

i have some very limited experience of trying to get things through the tunnel. It is not as easy and certainly not as straightforward as many here seem to assume. Honestly, sending things by ship is often easier.

I suspect that class 92 are regular runners through the tunnel and so didn't need any special consideration.

I do take your point Rich and I hadn't considered that fact about the 92s, though it's a shame that there are so many restrictions placed on the tunnel twix the UK and France, and especially so now that there is an even longer one in operation that passes deep under the mountainous border between two other European countries which on the face of it doesn't seem to be as handicapped by paperwork as the Eurotunnel is?

 

[furnessvale]

Sensible for whom? Using a ship might be very sensible for the people involved.

It may well be, in which case that arrangement will continue.

 

[cav1975]

After Brexit the paperwork will probably kill off any temporary imports by sea too.

 

[Chris125]

by the looks of it, from a few different pictures I've seen, the section of ladders/steps on the bogies have been removed

More fundamentally they've narrowed the obstacle deflector at either end, giving them the characteristic UK 'waist' missing on those built for the continent - this can be seen below with newly modified 6601 alongside a sister in original condition.


15.08.2018 (VIII, slot); Locje ophalen bij de SSN by Chris Westerduin, on Flickr

 

[Skymonster]

Captrain 6601 - temporarily registered 66999 for movement on the UK network - has been hauled back to Hull (ex Longport) this afternoon by 37611.

 

[The_Train]

Captrain 6601 - temporarily registered 66999 for movement on the UK network - has been hauled back to Hull (ex Longport) this afternoon by 37611.

Indeed, it is still on the move at the moment. Here is the RTT link for anyone up Norf who might want to take a look

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O53201/2018/11/02/advanced