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  1. 981smithy

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    Removed post I didn't mean to offend anybody I was just asking a question.
     
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  3. 150222

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    Well no as they have to have their feet on the DSD!
     
  4. GB

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    Only takes one foot to hold down the DSD;)
     
  5. western Champion

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    Feet is the plural. Foot is the singular. He has one foot on the DSD the other resting on the desk or other item. What ever makes him comfortable. Where's the harm in that ?
     
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    Didn't this come up after the Southall crash, IIRC? Some passengers reported seeing the driver with his foot on the desk so they probed into whether he was weighting the DSD down with his bag, IIRC.
     
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    Doesnt the DSD randomly require you to lift off and re-apply pressure though to stop that ??
     
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    So if that was the case what do you suggest he does when vigilance goes off ? pick his bag up and put it back down again ? i think not !
     
  9. GB

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    Yes, after 60 seconds on a 66 without any control input and the reverser in the forward position.
     
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    Maybe, just maybe, he did it so you'd have something amusing to see. Don't think too much into it. There's not some lunatic driving a 66 around Britain with his feet.
     
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    I like the idea of putting your feet up at 70mph :)
     
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    Whatya worried about? at least he's awake ;) You'd be worried if his head was down on the dash counting sheep, using the DSD as a snooze button.
     
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    Is it the "norm" these days for someone to bring attention to a meaningless portion of a video, stating the exact date and location in order to cause a possible nuisance?

    Actually, it seems to be coming the "norm".
     
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    It's pretty much already the norm here!
     
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    I only see one foot on the dash anyway. Meh.
     
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    Without any knowledge of a cab, my only possible concern would be if you need to slouch in the chair in order to get your feet up - ie reducing visibility.

    Obviously people who have actually been in a cab of that type will have a better idea.
     
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    Sometimes it's the only way to stay in a comfortable driving position for hours at a stretch, being comfortable means being alert.... I find the most comfortable position for me is to have my left foot holding the DSD down with my right foot on the edge of the dash. I keep a cloth in my bag to wipe the dash down before I leave the loco.

    It may seem 'slack' to some but we spend hours on these locos which lets face it aren't the nicest to work on. Part of the problem is the control tower's position in relation to the driving seat, you naturally end up 'sitting back' when coasting along so your foot ends up on the dash to stop you rolling about or being bucked out of the chair. On older locos such as 47s etc, all of the controls are right in front of you whereas on a 66 the throttle, reverser etc are to one side, I've been driving them for nigh on ten years and still feels slightly odd compared to the old BR machines I grew up with.

    Davelew99 - it might look like we're slouching but I can assure you we don't let it affect our view of the road ahead ;o)
     
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    What's the harm in asking a simple question?
     
  20. Wyvern

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    Is it the norm for RailUK contributors to be self-appointed arbiters of railway working practice?
     
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    Surely just ask the question?

    No need for a video, location and date. This time, it probably isn't an issue for the driver involved, but at one point, it will.
     
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    As long as the train in question is being driven safely, does it matter what the driver does to remain comfortable?
     
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    I really don't think he was asking just to cause trouble. And i don't see any need to sarcastically keep repeating the word 'norm' in inverted commas either.
     
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    Of course I don't know the OP. As I stated 2 posts previously, I just don't feel there was any need to give out all of the information. Given the OP is curious, then surely they could just merely ask the question.
     
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    I can categorically tell you he did not have his bag on the DSD! I worked with the driver concerned and know EXACTLY why the chain of events leading up to the unfortunate accident occured and this was not a factor so can we please put Southall to bed now?
     
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