Central Line Stock Allocations

[Crossforth]

Morning all

It’s a bit of a long shot.

I did a bit of travelling about yesterday on the Underground and I did a quick hop on the Central line. I noted that two of the units in the 8 car formation were 92001 and 92128.

I don’t suppose anyone knows which other two units they were coupled to yesterday?

Cheers

 

[Dstock7080]

Would be difficult to find if not end units.

 

[Crossforth]

Ah ok. I know that 92001 was at one end when I was on it. Even just the other end unit would be a bonus

 

[Dstock7080]

w91001+91315e on T103 yesterday

91128 wasn't an end unit.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Having wasted two hours today because I obviously need Specsavers ( don't ask! ), perhaps I should check whether two of the units with cabs out of service 91177 and 91341 are still only capable of being formed in the middle of a rake and therefore cannot be formed as end units?

 

[Kite159]

Having wasted two hours today because I obviously need Specsavers ( don't ask! ), perhaps I should check whether two of the units with cabs out of service 91177 and 91341 are still only capable of being formed in the middle of a rake and therefore cannot be formed as end units?

I believe 91177 has been out of service for a good couple years (a screenshot I got sent said Feb 16) and was being used as a Christmas tree for other sets

 

[Dstock7080]

Having wasted two hours today because I obviously need Specsavers ( don't ask! ), perhaps I should check whether two of the units with cabs out of service 91177 and 91341 are still only capable of being formed in the middle of a rake and therefore cannot be formed as end units?

91341 has been in Acton Works many months now and is the pilot unit for the heavy refurbishment for the '92 Stock, including; new AC motors, new LED lighting, new visual/audio passenger information system, new seating moquette, possible new seat bases and refitting of armrests.
The new workshop is now under construction.

thought i saw 91311 in the middle this morning.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Ah... thanks.... so 91341 should at least emerge with a usable cab, but I may well have a permanent gap for 91177...?

 

[notverydeep]

91177 has just been through the Heavy Overhaul (HO) programme and so may well be back in service soon. It doesn't appear to be a leading car in any train in service over the last week as yet however, although that doesn't exclude the possibility it is running as a middle unit in service. 91341 is expected to be the last unit in the HO programme after the W&C units, being done in August. Whether it will return to service after that or continue to be used by the AC Traction project (which isn't the same as the HO programme) I don't know...

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Interesting.. thank you... I would appreciate any updates in due course, please.

 

[Kite159]

Agreed, good news with the potential return of 91177

 

[Mojo]

91315-93230-93128-91001 are the four units in that compo.

 

[Crossforth]

91315-93230-93128-91001 are the four units in that compo.

Thanks for that Mojo.

I hate to think where you lot got your info from. I struggle to get anything out of the TOC I work for never mind anyone else

 

[Dstock7080]

Interesting.. thank you... I would appreciate any updates in due course, please.

Unit 91341 was returned to Ruislip depot by road on Friday evening.
Still requires some work to return it to service.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Thank you for the update; I take it that the cab will be functional once again?

 

[notverydeep]

Agreed, good news with the potential return of 91177

91177 appears to be in service now, the formation being 91303 93148 93080 91177 on train 140 today.

91341 is slated for an October return to service...

 

[Kite159]

91177 appears to be in service now, the formation being 91303 93148 93080 91177 on train 140 today.

91341 is slated for an October return to service...

Managed to get it yesterday

 

[Peter Mugridge]

That's great - I'll keep my eyes open for them...

 

[samuelmorris]

Are there any observable differences to units that have been through the heavy overhaul program? I'm in no rush to score every unit on the Central line as I find it rather unpleasant these days (and it can be hard to see all four unit numbers on crowded platforms) but if there's a noticeable difference in these units inside I suppose I ought to take a look at one...

 

[notverydeep]

Are there any observable differences to units that have been through the heavy overhaul program? I'm in no rush to score every unit on the Central line as I find it rather unpleasant these days (and it can be hard to see all four unit numbers on crowded platforms) but if there's a noticeable difference in these units inside I suppose I ought to take a look at one...

If there were any internal modifications included in the Overhauls (and I am not aware of any), it has had no real impact on their appearance. The project to achieve a greater degree of RVAR compliance hasn't yet commenced.

 

[samuelmorris]

Fair enough, thanks! I imagine we'd have heard about it if anything significant had happened yet

Are the overhauled units still using the same traction gear too?

 

[Dstock7080]

Are the overhauled units still using the same traction gear too?

Yes, the new workshop at Acton hasn’t been completed yet so AC motor fitting and other modifications aren’t being done yet.

 

[samuelmorris]

Understood, so I imagine any noticeable work done to the units will be quite a way off yet then...

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I'll be in London tomorrow ( 1st October ) so I'd be very interested if 91177 is out off peak...

 

[notverydeep]

I'll be in London tomorrow ( 1st October ) so I'd be very interested if 91177 is out off peak...

It appears to be working (leading) train 102 - currently 1445 Newbury Park - White City (30 seconds early at Bond Street), next 1556 White City - Woodford via Hainault, then 1732 Woodford via Hainault - White City. Later workings are 1846 White City - Hainault, 1951 Hainault - White City, 2054 White City - Newbury Park, 2156 Newbury Park - North Acton and lastly 2308 - Hainault and stable 0010. Beware of course this assumes that it doesn't get reformed at any stage...

Hope this helps...

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Thank you unfortunately I'm in the wrong place to reach it before dark now!

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I may have an opportunity to try again tomorrow 22nd if the required unit(s) is ( are ) in service - are they both back yet, or just 91177 so far?

 

[notverydeep]

I may have an opportunity to try again tomorrow 22nd if the required unit(s) is ( are ) in service - are they both back yet, or just 91177 so far?

Sorry to disappoint, but 91177 seems to be stopped again (the formation listed in my 20 September post has been reformed) and 91341's completion date has been put back to the end of the year.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Drat!!!

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Afternoon all; if 91177 and 91341 are out tomorrow Monday 3rd, I would be interested in their whereabouts, please... I should have an opportunity to seriously go after them...