Charter sets - Aircon mk2 s

[Masboroughlad]

Do any of the charter fleet sets contain standard class, mk2 d,e,f coaches that have airline seats, as well as tables of 4?

 

[JonathanH]

Do any of the charter fleet sets contain standard class, mk2 d,e,f coaches that have airline seats, as well as tables of 4?

No, all tables of 4 in Mk2f coaches used in railtour sets.

All standard Mk2s were built with bays of seats. A very small batch of early Mk2s were SOs with a 2+1 configuration - the Steam Dreams set has three of these marketed as premium standard. The remainder were TSOs with 2+2 seating in bays of 4s.

The only Mk2s with airline seating were two batches of first opens converted to standard class in the late 1980s, used on the Great Western (Mk2d) and Anglia (Mk2f). There are none of these in the charter fleets (or indeed in existance).

 

[185143]

No, all tables of 4 in Mk2f coaches used in railtour sets.

All standard Mk2s were built with bays of seats. A very small batch of early Mk2s were SOs with a 2+1 configuration - the Steam Dreams set has three of these marketed as premium standard. The remainder were TSOs with 2+2 seating in bays of 4s.

The only Mk2s with airline seating were two batches of first opens converted to standard class in the late 1980s, used on the Great Western (Mk2d) and Anglia (Mk2f). There are none of these in the charter fleets (or indeed in existance).

Caledonian Sleeper seated coaches are Mk2s aren't they?

 

[JonathanH]

Caledonian Sleeper seated coaches are Mk2s aren't they?

Yes. Sorry for that oversight. However, the BUOs are heavily rebuilt from when they were TSOs (and actually unclassified, not standard class).

The "in existence" comment referred to the 62xx / 68xx FO conversions.

 

[delticdave]

No, all tables of 4 in Mk2f coaches used in railtour sets.

All standard Mk2s were built with bays of seats. A very small batch of early Mk2s were SOs with a 2+1 configuration - the Steam Dreams set has three of these marketed as premium standard. The remainder were TSOs with 2+2 seating in bays of 4s.

The only Mk2s with airline seating were two batches of first opens converted to standard class in the late 1980s, used on the Great Western (Mk2d) and Anglia (Mk2f). There are none of these in the charter fleets (or indeed in existance).

ISTR that the early 2+1 Mk 2's were 2nd class, (when UK classes were 1st & 3rd) for the Southern Region boat trains that required all 3 classes.

 

[hexagon789]

ISTR that the early 2+1 Mk 2's were 2nd class, (when UK classes were 1st & 3rd) for the Southern Region boat trains that required all 3 classes.

That was Mk1s in the 1950s, because at the time Europe mostly still had three classes. That ended in 1956 and BR then renamed third class to second.

The early Mk2 Standard Opens (SO, with 2+1 seating), were I believe orginally for use as fluid dining cars being coupled next to buffet/kitchen cars in WCML front-line sets iirc.