Class 139 - Information please!

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  1. Peter C

    Peter C Established Member

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    Hello all.
    I am currently looking into the Class 139 Parry People Movers, and would like to find out some information about them. I have done a lot of Google searching and I have read a lot of the websites about these units, including the official Pre-Metro page.
    I was wondering if anyone could please supply me with the following information:

    -The different cab controls of the units, and the layout of them

    -Sounds of the units working, either from inside the unit or outside (preferably very good recordings, e.g. ones without too much talking, birds, other noise in the background)

    -The safety systems fitted to the units, as in AWS and the like

    -What they are like to drive

    -What they are like to ride in

    If anyone has any recordings of the units, I would love it if they could send them to me in a private message on here.

    Thanks,

    -Peter
     
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  3. ed1971

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    There are a few videos of the 139s on Youtube; an external shot here:

    I
     
  4. Peter C

    Peter C Established Member

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    Thanks very much. That's useful. :)

    -Peter
     
  5. pdeaves

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    Very juddery. Granted, that may be purely down to track condition. I rode a demo Parry at Bristol harbour many moons ago and the Stourbridge one earlier this year. In both cases they felt very rough.
     
  6. ed1971

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    They look like a micro Pacer!
     
  7. Peter C

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    Thanks. Interesting.

    -Peter
     
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    I had a ride on the one that was demonstrated at the Wensleydale Railway some years ago (from Leeming Bar to just outside Northallerton and back). Suffice to say, I was glad to get off! I've also ridden on the Stourbridge ones and thought they were ideal for that distance.
     
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    I'm not sure it has anything other than a vigilence device (which goes off about every 10-15 seconds) - the branch has no AWS or TPWS that I am aware of
     
  10. Peter C

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    Very interesting, thanks.
    The 139s do sound perfect for the route from what I've read.

    -Peter
     
  11. Peter C

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    OK. Thanks. I was wondering if it had any safety features purely because I hadn't heard of any. The vigilance device - is it a standard DSD/DVD*?

    -Peter

    *Driver Safety Device or Driver Vigilance Device, same thing.
     
  12. Crossover

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    That I don't know I'm afraid
     
  13. Peter C

    Peter C Established Member

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    Oh OK. Fair enough. :)

    -Peter
     
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    I wonder what he driver diagrams are on this service .
     
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    Driver/guard change roles regularly so I believe.

    The diagrams on the 'town car', the invariable class 153 which was used before the 139s came about, were awful.
     
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    Not the same thing. Driver safety device- just needs weight on the pedal, could be a sack of spuds for all it knows, Driver Vigilance device - the thing which checks that whatever is applying pressure on the DSD pedal is a human being and not a sack of spuds by getting the pressure to be removed and reapplied every minute or so.
     
  17. Peter C

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    Oh OK. Sorry - I assumed it was a standard railway thing of having two names for one thing!

    -Peter
     
  18. Peter C

    Peter C Established Member

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    What were said diagrams like?

    -Peter
     
  19. CC 72100

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    Don't worry, there are many who should know who struggle with the difference :)
     
  20. xotGD

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    A trip on a 139 is more like a fairground ride than a normal train journey.
     
  21. Sprinter107

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    The branch was fitted with TPWS when worked by a 153. It also had AWS magnets for the fixed distant signals at either end. The track was never too bad when worked by a 153, but just before the 163 was taken off, the branch was visited by a tamper, so for the last few weeks, the 153 rode like a ball on a billiard table, it was a very smooth ride.
    The Parry Mover was rough from day 1.
     
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    Trivia fact - The 139 (8.7m) is shorter than an 08 (8.92m)!
     
  23. Peter C

    Peter C Established Member

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    Oh OK :)

    -Peter
     
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    Oh OK. Interesting, thanks. I assumed that the 139s were just always very smooth rides.

    -Peter
     
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    You can see how basic and how rough it is in this video (not mine, also from Youtube). But also how short the branch is as well.

     
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    It’s a bit bouncy/noisy but for the distance it’s fine. When I used the service last year the thing wouldn’t restart at Stourbridge town so we all had to get off while the floor was lifted to change a bottle over. Was all sorted in a jiffy. Better use of assets than having a 153 rolling up & down all day with about 8 passengers on it.
     
  27. Peter C

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    OK. That incident at Stourbridge Town is interesting. These 139s, whilst bouncy, definitely seem to be better than having a 153 which is half empty!

    -Peter
     
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    There were many more than 8 passengers. The 16.11 from the town regularly carried well over a hundred passengers. It was late at night the passenger numbers dropped.
     
  29. ed1971

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    I have been taking a look at the Parry People Movers website. There are a number of interesting products being developed including a 18mm bogied railcar. It is in a way a single car super Pacer.
    To look at an artist impression of it, go to http://www.parrypeoplemovers.com/ then click on 'products' tab at the top then click on 'under development bogie-mounted vehicles'. It should ride a lot better than the Class 39.
     
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    Very similar noises and ride quality to a shopping trolley across tarmac.
     
  31. Peter C

    Peter C Established Member

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    Wait an amazing comparison! :)

    -Peter
     

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