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As I understand it 4 153s are being converted into bike carriers in the same fashion as the Scottish ones.
Presumably these extras are linked to that either for parts or conversion to allow the present fleet to stay in service instead of losing operational ones while they are needed.
Presumably these extras are linked to that either for parts or conversion to allow the present fleet to stay in service instead of losing operational ones while they are needed.
fgwrich
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Putting two and two together, that tally's in with what I've heard. These ex Angel 153s get PRM-Lited, which would then free up a number for bike carrier conversion.
Who'd have thought Wales would become the 'Dogbox' sanctuary?!
TT-ONR-NRN
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I’m sorry but that irritates me. What a waste to PRM or PRM lite them all, then go and do a complete renovation on top of those and PRM lite others? Why not just bike convert these unrefurbished Northern ones? Is it down to ROSCO?
Ah yes there has been talk of that.
Yes. TfW now own 9 153s (Not including the Northern ones mentioned). 7 are full PRM, 2 are PRM lite (968 & 973).
918 and 982 are getting full PRM mods so will return to /3.
Makes sense to just convert the latest ones to a bike carrier conversion with the relevant PRM lite mods.
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You do realise that the bike carriers would require PRM lite modifications?
TT-ONR-NRN
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Well yes I suppose so. I hope they convert the ex Greater Anglia ones, with no seatback tables and no armrests.
Armchair Bob
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Confirm that these are now at Landore
170UTD
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Slightly off topic, but I found an article from a couple of years ago that says only 19 153s transferred from EMT to EMR instead of 21. Can anyone confirm this or is it a mistake in the article?
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153310 and 326 had already by this point moved to WMR for temporary strengthening before going on to Wales.Slightly off topic, but I found an article from a couple of years ago that says only 19 153s transferred from EMT to EMR instead of 21. Can anyone confirm this or is it a mistake in the article?
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py_megapixel
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Interesting that it's not banana yellow
fgwrich
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Oddly making it look more like a Northern Spirit unit!
Steddenm
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Shouldn't the 153s with Network Rail be part of the 9xx numbering series - therefore making it a Departmental Class 953?
Renumbering of units and vehicles into the departmental numbering series went out of fashion some years ago.
59CosG95
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153376 was at Rail Live today, and included a tour inside the unit.
Further west, I made out all but 1 of the ex-Northern Porterbrook units - every unit except 316. Is 316 still extant or has it been roaded away?
Further west, I made out all but 1 of the ex-Northern Porterbrook units - every unit except 316. Is 316 still extant or has it been roaded away?
fodphil
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Was 311 there?
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Apparently 364 and 366 have now also gone for scrap?
TrainTrackJack
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311 stored on the west sidings adjacent to the Network Rail DVT's, with full NR branding still applied. The "tour guide" if you will for 153376 explained how Network Rail had 3, 2 were being used as Visual Inspection Units and the 3rd (311) was to be used for development processes. He also made mention of Network Rails ambition to aquire more - an interesting point.
364 and 366 were dispatched to Sims Metals Beeston earlier in the year after extensive component recovery at Nemesis Rail, Burton.
fodphil
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I went on Thursday by car and drove to the industrial estate next door and 311 was clearly visable.
Picture obtained through the fence.
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Armchair Bob
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For avoidance of any confusion, here is an up-to-date list of the whereabouts of all class 153s.
SCOTRAIL: 305 370 373 377 380 - all Angel units, formerly with GWR.
NETWORK RAIL: 376 385 - Porterbrook units, formerly with EMR.
SCRAPPED - 302 (formerly an Angel EMR unit) 364 366 (formerly Porterbrook WMR units).
STORED: at Ely (Angel units) ex Northern 301 304 315 317 351 378
ex EMR 308 319 355 357. Total:10
STORED: at Long Marston (Porterbrook units) ex Northern 316 324 330 332 358 359 360 363
ex WMR 334 354 356 365 371 375
ex EMR 311 379 381 383 384. Total:19
STORED: at Landore (TfW units, bought from Angel) ex Northern 307 328 331 352
ex EMR 374. Total:5
TRANSPORT FOR WALES: (bought from Angel) 303 312 318 327 353 362 382 968 972. Total:9
(Porterbrook units) 320 323 325 329 333 361 367 369 906 909 910 913 914 921 922 926 935. Total:17
SCOTRAIL: 305 370 373 377 380 - all Angel units, formerly with GWR.
NETWORK RAIL: 376 385 - Porterbrook units, formerly with EMR.
SCRAPPED - 302 (formerly an Angel EMR unit) 364 366 (formerly Porterbrook WMR units).
STORED: at Ely (Angel units) ex Northern 301 304 315 317 351 378
ex EMR 308 319 355 357. Total:10
STORED: at Long Marston (Porterbrook units) ex Northern 316 324 330 332 358 359 360 363
ex WMR 334 354 356 365 371 375
ex EMR 311 379 381 383 384. Total:19
STORED: at Landore (TfW units, bought from Angel) ex Northern 307 328 331 352
ex EMR 374. Total:5
TRANSPORT FOR WALES: (bought from Angel) 303 312 318 327 353 362 382 968 972. Total:9
(Porterbrook units) 320 323 325 329 333 361 367 369 906 909 910 913 914 921 922 926 935. Total:17
TT-ONR-NRN
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An over provision if there ever was one
Anonymous10
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must be moving it for a reason
craigybagel
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To be fair, occasionally there are large groups traveling to and from Ireland on the ferry that need accommodating. I remember getting a work email about an entire youth orchestra traveling through Fishguard a few years ago. It may well have been something similar.An over provision if there ever was one
It's one of the big challenges both TfW and Stena Line have to deal with at Fishguard - most of the time passenger numbers are pretty low both on train and ferry. But every so often there's a sporting event or a large group and they need catering for some how....
Andrew1395
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Not bad for a train that is likely to have 40 years service considering the 155s were not well thought of when first delivered.
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