Class 159 detail differences?

[Temple Meads]

Hi guys, just a quick query, is there any way to tell a Class 159/0 and a Class 159/1 apart?

Now that they're all in the same livery, I can't see any obvious detail differences.

It's the train in the attached picture that I'm particularly curious about, as I rode it, photted it and filmed it, but didn't get the number

So also, if anyone knows what was operating 1L76 the 19:26 Exeter St Davids to London Waterloo, I'd be very grateful :P

Cheers,

Tim

 

[Drsatan]

No, there are no obvious detail differences. The 159/1s started life as eight 158s cascaded from Transpennine Express in return for eight 170s. These three car 158s were fitted with more powerful 400 bhp Cummins engines for use on the Transpennine line.

 

[starrymarkb]

That's a /0...

Easy way to tell is the that /1s have two opening windows per side, /0s have four (it was an early mod before the Air conditioning was replaced with one that worked)
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No, there are no obvious detail differences. The 159/1s started life as eight 158s cascaded from Transpennine Express in return for eight 170s. These three car 158s were fitted with more powerful 400 bhp Cummins engines for use on the Transpennine line.

The /1s have 350hp engines. The /0s have the 400hp Cummins

 

[Drsatan]

That's a /0...

Easy way to tell is the that /1s have two opening windows per side, /0s have four (it was an early mod before the Air conditioning was replaced with one that worked)
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The /1s have 350hp engines. The /0s have the 400hp Cummins

Ah ok, I stand corrected.

 

[GearJammer]

Hi guys, just a quick query, is there any way to tell a Class 159/0 and a Class 159/1 apart?

Now that they're all in the same livery, I can't see any obvious detail differences.

It's the train in the attached picture that I'm particularly curious about, as I rode it, photted it and filmed it, but didn't get the number

So also, if anyone knows what was operating 1L76 the 19:26 Exeter St Davids to London Waterloo, I'd be very grateful :P

Cheers,

Tim

If you zoom in on the pic you can see the last number is a 7 with what looks like a 0 in front, so going by what was said about the windows and this being a 159/0 then i think its fairly safe to guess that its 159007, could be 159017 but i don't think so, id put my money on it being 007!

 

[Temple Meads]

If you zoom in on the pic you can see the last number is a 7 with what looks like a 0 in front, so going by what was said about the windows and this being a 159/0 then i think its fairly safe to guess that its 159007, could be 159017 but i don't think so, id put my money on it being 007!

Yep, I'm pretty sure it's an "07".

Was always between 007, and 107, so with the excellent clarification by starrymarkb (I always knew there was something to tell them apart... ), it's gotta be 159007!

 

[lewisf]

They also have different skirting on the front. The 159/0s have flat skirting like in the picture, the 159/1's look more snowplough like.

 

[455driver]

They also have different skirting on the front. The 159/0s have flat skirting like in the picture, some of the 159/1's look more snowplough like.

Post edited for accuracy, it isnt all the 159/1s that have the snowplough skirts.