rogercov
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172003 has arrived at Tyseley
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centraltrains
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Is it in WMR livery or LO?
rogercov
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The LO branding has been removed ("Overground" roundels). I think this was done at Willesden prior to transfer to Ilford. Other than that, it hasn't been repainted. It's just like 172006 in the picture posted on this forum on 27th Feb.
I see there's another slot booked on Monday afternoon:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K01521/2019/04/01/advanced
Old Hill Bank
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Did anything turn up at Tyseley off this move?
rogercov
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I'd be interested to know too.
Strangely, RTT didn't show any real time updates at the time they should have appeared. However, it seems that some "real" times were added manually sometime later for a few places between Ilford and Canonbury, but nothing beyond that.
I'm not sure what this means. Perhaps it did run but RTT didn't get the updates.
Has anyone been past Tyseley to count the units?
Old Hill Bank
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The next Ilford-Tyseley move.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K01615/2019/04/05/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K01615/2019/04/05/advanced
centraltrains
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Still just 006 and 002
Old Hill Bank
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This does not look good for the May timetable change!
rogercov
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Well, 003 definitely came up last Friday night, as I saw it enroute. I guess it was hiding somewhere.
Latest news is that 008 has just passed Camden Road on its way to Tyseley.
This looks like it http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K01615/2019/04/05/advanced arriving at Tyseley at 0138 tomorrow morning.
rogercov
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That's the one.... currently running over 2 hours early at Watford!
anamyd
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why do those delivery runs rush so much...? it was a miracle I managed to get video footage of the 153s to from GWR to TfW because they left 32E and arrived 81E!
They use very short term planning paths and are effectively slotted in where possible. Thus if it's convenient to get them out of the way they will run early.
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Because, surprisingly enough, operational convenience trumps the need of a spotter wanting to get a picture
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Thanks
anamyd
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"operational convenience" is not following the times which could cause problems...?
For those who have facebook, WMT have published a picture of one of the new 172s undergoing application of new vinyls in one of the sheds at Tyseley. Looks like the yellow front is being covered up.
Minilad
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If it was going to cause problems it wouldn't be going at the time it did. There was clearly a path for it to be allowed to run early so it did. If at any point it could have caused problems it would be held. For example over the COV-LMS branch
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OK, thanks
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As some of us aren’t on Facebook, like me, could you screenshot it please. Thanks
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As Requested.
Photo courtesy of West Midlands Railway.
Photo courtesy of West Midlands Railway.
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Thanks so much
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Not too much of a change from yellow to WMT orange.
Are the yellow ends of trains meant to be a specific colour/shade of yellow or does the bow exinct rule just specify yellow?
Old Hill Bank
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Next move from Ilford to Tyseley
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91813/2019/04/12/advanced
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91813/2019/04/12/advanced
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There is a list of acceptable yellow definitions that can be used to conform to visibility rules:
“The forward facing front end of the leading vehicle of a train shall include a warning panel, with a yellow colour conforming to any of the following paint colours:
a) RAL 1003, RAL 1004, RAL 1018, RAL 1021, or RAL1023 from the RAL Classic Colour Collection.
b) BS 4800 Item 08E51.
c) BR81 Item 202.
d) NCS (Natural colour system) target value 1080-Y 10-R or 1475-Y 11R.
e) EC 222.69.79 in the Eurocolour table.”
https://www.rssb.co.uk/rgs/standards/GMRT2131 Iss 1.pdf
No idea how much different those shades are though, they may be defining very similar colours that only detailed knowledge could separate...
This is how the forum software reproduces RAL 1003
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centraltrains
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Am I missing something or have they vinyled over or removed the DOO cameras
Ssshh. They won't notice!
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nice!
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It was always a bit of a bodge job by London Overground & Bombardier at the time and from what I'm told the system was incredibly unreliable on the 172s.Am I missing something or have they vinyled over or removed the DOO cameras
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