Class 230 units training/introduction on the Borderlands line.

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GetTaeFalkirk

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Looking at this video on Youtube, it would appear that the end of each car has been made more conventional by removing the end carriage windows, and a normal conventional type corridor has been fitted.
So are the individual units further apart? They don't look so closely coupled as they do in videos of the Marston Vale route.
 

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So are the individual units further apart? They don't look so closely coupled as they do in videos of the Marston Vale route.
Probably an improvement over the UIC rubber gangway used on the MV units together with the bizarre door control mechanism!
Good point, I hadn't noticed that. It does look like the vehicles are slightly further apart.

Yes, I did wonder that too - does anyone have any pictures of the odd UIC corridor arrangement on the LWNR units? I've seen a video where, rather oddly, they've left the original drop down windows too.
 

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This is the most recent version of the 230 I’ve seen so far, I like the front ends of TfW’s units much more than the prototype, the angular appearance looks a lot more modern than the flat and empty look, the yellow looks better as well.

I must say though that the TfW logo looks like the Take That logo :lol:.
 

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Lots of photo`s of the TfW 230`s on Peter Tandy and Stephen Widdowson`s sites. The TfW 230`s are racking up 2000 miles on test apparently, hence the longer runs to Stourbridge, 100 mile round trip, twice a day? Will not take long, however Peter Tandy did report a brake fault at Honeybourne and a replacement part was fitted. So does the test clock wind back to zero in such circs?

Edit: thinking about it more like a 60/70 mile round trip, but multiple runs apparently.
 
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Bob Price

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If you search 230006 on YouTube you get a lot of videos of it in action. Following RTT they are really piling on the miles as has been said, well into the evening.
 

Brissle Girl

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Is piling on the miles really the best testing. Surely stop/start, accelerate/brake, open/close doors every three or four minutes is a better representation of what the units will be subjected to?
 

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Is piling on the miles really the best testing. Surely stop/start, accelerate/brake, open/close doors every three or four minutes is a better representation of what the units will be subjected to?
Good luck finding a path where you can do that, though.
 

Brissle Girl

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Good luck finding a path where you can do that, though.
It's probably been easier than normal for the last month or two. And even now the service in most places is thinned out. How about the Marston Vale line? No service currently, and even when it's up and running plenty of opportunity to fit a few extra paths in. The only downside might be confusion of passengers.

And does it even need to stop at a station to practice starting and stopping? It could trundle up and down the South Cotswold Line, which is normally only hourly, not too far away from "home", stop between stations a couple of times, and open/close the doors a couple of times at each station.
 

Neen Sollars

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Brissle Girl, Good points raised. Could it be they want to get the 2000 miles asap, and have the unit delivered to Wrexham and do all the stop start stuff on the Wrexham - Bidston line. Presume they have to upload the station data into the GPS to ensure the diesels cut out prior to and start shortly after station stops, and I think there are plenty of them on that line. I would think most problems (hopefully very few) will be this stop start and opening and closing of doors.
We shall see.
 

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Brissle Girl, Good points raised. Could it be they want to get the 2000 miles asap, and have the unit delivered to Wrexham and do all the stop start stuff on the Wrexham - Bidston line. Presume they have to upload the station data into the GPS to ensure the diesels cut out prior to and start shortly after station stops, and I think there are plenty of them on that line. I would think most problems (hopefully very few) will be this stop start and opening and closing of doors.
We shall see.
Brissle Girl is right, and 2000 miles ASAP is no damn good if the doors don't work reliably. Remember GBRf were running the 800s up and down at high speed but weren't stopping and opening the doors. Come inauguration in October 2017 look what happened at Bath Spa.

There is a video online of 230006 arriving Stourbridge Jn and departing back to Worcester. The train didn't actually stop in the platforms, running straight int othe loop, and didnt therefore open and close the doors. I can understand the risk of passengers boarding at stations, but surely PA announcements and platform staff could mitigate that anyway. If I were TfW i would expect the 230s to perform straight out of the box, and as someone said, the currently serviceless Marston Vale line would be an ideal testbed.
 

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