Class 314 Withdrawals

[InOban]

Thanks very much. I wasn't aware of the limitations of the 37/7. . But I agree, off topic.

I can't understand the enthusiasm to preserve an example. One of the many variants of the design that saw service around the UK would suffice.

 

[Malcolmffc]

I see a local MSP is prattling on about the lack of toilets again, even claiming it should be a legal requirement. Whilst they are a good thing to have what is the big deal? Thousands of people manage to travel between Inverclyde and Glasgow by car, taxi and the bus, none of which have toilets, yet when it comes to the train its somehow a breach of human rights? And how on earth did people survive for 40 years of the 303s?

We live in more enlightened times now.

 

[43096]

I would rather if possible see it running under its own power

I think people need to get real with EMU preservation. If the likes of the CIGs and the 504 struggle to be viable in preservation (they are about as loco compatible as you’ll get from an EMU) then anything PEP-derivative and later is going to struggle to justify anything other than one car and “stuffed and mounted” at that.

 

[youngac]

Anyone aware if any other 314s have been stopped recently? I haven’t seen 202 in service for a while.

 

[SC318250]

Believe the stopped 5 so far are

201 (Shields)
204 (Yoker)
206 (Shields)
212 (scrapped)
213 (Glasgow Works)

 

[gc1982]

I think people need to get real with EMU preservation. If the likes of the CIGs and the 504 struggle to be viable in preservation (they are about as loco compatible as you’ll get from an EMU) then anything PEP-derivative and later is going to struggle to justify anything other than one car and “stuffed and mounted” at that.

Isn’t 313 201 being lined up for preservation? Don’t think there is any need to preserve any 314/315/507/508 if that is the case

 

[scotraildriver]

Isn’t 313 201 being lined up for preservation? Don’t think there is any need to preserve any 314/315/507/508 if that is the case

Except it caught fire a couple of weeks ago and is now unlikely to see service again.

 

[Fleetwood Boy]

Anyone aware if any other 314s have been stopped recently? I haven’t seen 202 in service for a while.

202 is alive and well. I’m on it as I type.

 

[delt1c]

I think people need to get real with EMU preservation. If the likes of the CIGs and the 504 struggle to be viable in preservation (they are about as loco compatible as you’ll get from an EMU) then anything PEP-derivative and later is going to struggle to justify anything other than one car and “stuffed and mounted” at that.

Whilst I see where you coming from, with a bit of ingenuity a unit could be used as hauled stock, after all if a new kettle can be built from scratch then a unit could be adapted ( after all 2 504's were) . But ( and its a big BUT ) would it warrant the cost and effort?

 

[trainmananthon]

Off to Glasgow today.....does anyone know if 202, 205 and 208 are out and about and if not where to see them?
Thanks

 

[youngac]

202 is alive and well. I’m on it as I type.

Many thanks.

 

[303032]

I was passing through Glasgow Central at lunchtime today and saw the following 314's in service

314205 11.51 Cathcart Outer Circle
314214 11.55 Glasgow Central - Gourock
314216 12.12 Glasgow Central - Paisley Canal
314215 12.15 Cathcart Inner Circle
314211 12.25 Glasgow Central - Gourock

The 11.42 service to Paisley Canal and the 11.45 service to Newton were both SPT Carmine and Cream 314's, I didn't catch the numbers unfortunately.

 

[JModulo]

I was passing through Glasgow Central at lunchtime today and saw the following 314's in service

314205 11.51 Cathcart Outer Circle
314214 11.55 Glasgow Central - Gourock
314216 12.12 Glasgow Central - Paisley Canal
314215 12.15 Cathcart Inner Circle
314211 12.25 Glasgow Central - Gourock

The 11.42 service to Paisley Canal and the 11.45 service to Newton were both SPT Carmine and Cream 314's, I didn't catch the numbers unfortunately.

314202 on the 10.55 Glasgow - Gourock.

 

[303032]

I saw the following 314's out today:

Glasgow Central
314207: 10.42 and 11.42 to Paisley Canal
314202: 10.55 to Gourock
314210: 10.57 to Weymss Bay
3142xx: 11.05 to Gourock (Didn't catch the number but was a Saltire set)
314214: 11.20 to Newton via Queens Park and 15.45 to Newton via Maxwell Park
314203: 15.20 to Newton

 

[SC318250]

1105 Gourock would be 211
1205 Gourock was 215
The other Paisley Canal was 209

 

[SC318250]

Does anyone know if another has been stored after Friday with 385s starting Cathcart tomorrow?

 

[SC318250]

Looking at last overhauls, the following got to be coming close to being stopped

207
205
203
214

Without seeing mileage, they might have longer. 201 is strange being stopped as it was one of the last to be done, but again maybe stopped with something more than out of mileage

 

[Fleetwood Boy]

Looking at last overhauls, the following got to be coming close to being stopped

207
205
203
214

Without seeing mileage, they might have longer. 201 is strange being stopped as it was one of the last to be done, but again maybe stopped with something more than out of mileage

214 still going strong- I’m on it right now.

 

[Ray303_265]

Nice to see 215 displaying the ‘Via’ destination blind tonight, 2045 service to Newton, via Glasgow Central and Belshill! A good one for the SPT Roundabout ticket.
Currently on 214 to Neilston

 

[303032]

314's seen just before lunchtime at Glasgow Central today:

314202 - 11.12 to Paisley Canal
314207 - 11.15 Cathcart Inner and 11.51 Cathcart Outer Circle services
314208 - 11.42 to Paisley Canal
314214 - 11.45 to Newton via Maxwell Park
314210 - 11.55 to Gourock
314215 - 12.15 Cathcart Inner Circle

 

[Kite159]

314's seen just before lunchtime at Glasgow Central today:

314202 - 11.12 to Paisley Canal
314207 - 11.15 Cathcart Inner and 11.51 Cathcart Outer Circle services
314208 - 11.42 to Paisley Canal
314214 - 11.45 to Newton via Maxwell Park
314210 - 11.55 to Gourock
314215 - 12.15 Cathcart Inner Circle

Thanks, I'm in Glasgow this Friday so might have to go for a spin for probably the last time.

It's going to feel strange being as Glasgow Central in future without the 314s floating around

 

[youngac]

Nice to see 215 displaying the ‘Via’ destination blind tonight, 2045 service to Newton, via Glasgow Central and Belshill! A good one for the SPT Roundabout ticket.
Currently on 214 to Neilston

All of the 314s I’ve seen this week have been displaying something on the ‘via’ destination blind which is unusual.

 

[RJMC]

Looking at last overhauls, the following got to be coming close to being stopped

207
205
203
214

Without seeing mileage, they might have longer. 201 is strange being stopped as it was one of the last to be done, but again maybe stopped with something more than out of mileage

203 on the 8.55 Glasgow Central to Wemyss Bay this morning, just saw it passing through Cardonald

 

[Ray303_265]

All of the 314s I’ve seen this week have been displaying something on the ‘via’ destination blind which is unusual.

Quite a rare phenomenon, the ghosts of journeys past. Either that or someone is just fiddling with the blind handle!
3 coach 211 packed to the gunnels on last night’s 1635 to Neilston. The 380s have been a major improvement on space

 

[route101]

Quite a rare phenomenon, the ghosts of journeys past. Either that or someone is just fiddling with the blind handle!
3 coach 211 packed to the gunnels on last night’s 1635 to Neilston. The 380s have been a major improvement on space

Did they do Motherwell to Glasgow via KIngs park ?

 

[Ray303_265]

Did they do Motherwell to Glasgow via KIngs park ?

They perhaps did in earlier times, I believe the 303s ran on a regular through service in the early days of electrification but please correct me if I'm wrong. Of course there would have been diversions through the years whereby the units would have run to Motherwell via King's Park.

 

[snookertam]

Did they do Motherwell to Glasgow via KIngs park ?

By the time they were introduced the Argyle Line was in existence and even before that the service via Kings Park I think was curtailed/cut back to Newton when the WCML was electrified. They were only introduced on the Cathcart routes around 1999/2000.

 

[snookertam]

Quite a rare phenomenon, the ghosts of journeys past. Either that or someone is just fiddling with the blind handle!
3 coach 211 packed to the gunnels on last night’s 1635 to Neilston. The 380s have been a major improvement on space

Yes the 1635 and 1703 departures are very busy and ironically less able to deal with the loadings than the Neilston departures throughout the rest of the day which are all 4 car 380s. The 1629 arrival off Neilston, which is a 380, is diagrammed onto the 1645 Newton.

 

[prod_pep]

A busy day for the surviving 314s today with all 11 in use.

314202 1142 GLC-PYC
314203 1257 GLC-WMS
314205 1206 GLC-GRK
314207 1112 GLC-PYC
314208 + 314209 1722 GLC-NEI
314210 1145 GLC-NTN
314211 1155 GLC-GRK
314214 1115 GLC-CCT-GLC
314215 1225 GLC-GRK
314216 1215 GLC-CCT-GLC

314201 and 314206 both visible in the background at Shields Depot.

 

[childwallblues]

Thank you for the continued updates.