Class 314 Withdrawals

SC318250 · 24 May 2019 at 20:53

314203 was on 1815 Cathcart Circle tonight (with new pantograph)

314214/216 was arriving into Glasgow Central of 1756 x Neilston

314207/210 were on Shields (pans up)

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hexagon789 · 24 May 2019 at 21:39

SC318250 said:
314203 was on 1815 Cathcart Circle tonight (with new pantograph)

314214/216 was arriving into Glasgow Central of 1756 x Neilston

314207/210 were on Shields (pans up)

So at least 5 serviceable units.

Still...not a lot of them left then.

SC318250 · 25 May 2019 at 22:23

Looks like 207/210 are still operational as 210 was out today. Maybe rotating the last units

hexagon789 · 25 May 2019 at 22:44

SC318250 said:
Looks like 207/210 are still operational as 210 was out today. Maybe rotating the last units

Would love to know how many operational units are left, how many are stored and how many are no longer with us now.

SC318250 · 26 May 2019 at 08:39

Serviceable units
314202/203/205/209/210/214/216

Stored Units
314204 - Eastleigh Works
314207 - Shields (might be available)
314208/211 - Yoker CS
314215 - Unsure location

Scrapped Units
314201/206/212/213

hexagon789 · 26 May 2019 at 08:51

SC318250 said:
Serviceable units
314202/203/205/209/210/214/216

Stored Units
314204 - Eastleigh Works
314207 - Shields (might be available)
314208/211 - Yoker CS
314215 - Unsure location

Scrapped Units
314201/206/212/213

Thank you very much, that's very helpful.

Fleetwood Boy · 26 May 2019 at 09:27

SC318250 said:
314203 was on 1815 Cathcart Circle tonight (with new pantograph)

314214/216 was arriving into Glasgow Central of 1756 x Neilston

314207/210 were on Shields (pans up)

203 certainly had a new pantograph but also sounded like it had a wheel flat when I was on it on Friday.

hexagon789 · 26 May 2019 at 14:23

Fleetwood Boy said:
203 certainly had a new pantograph but also sounded like it had a wheel flat when I was on it on Friday.

In all the years I travelled on 314s, I don't think I've ever heard a flat on one.

Interesting that they are fitting a new pantograph considering the remaining units likely haven't too long to go.

JumpinTrainz · 26 May 2019 at 17:52

hexagon789 said:
In all the years I travelled on 314s, I don't think I've ever heard a flat on one.

Interesting that they are fitting a new pantograph considering the remaining units likely haven't too long to go.

Perhaps there may be plans to preserve 314203 given it retains one of the original coaches of a 507.

hexagon789 · 26 May 2019 at 17:56

JumpinTrainz said:
Perhaps there may be plans to preserve 314203 given it retains one of the original coaches of a 507.

I think 314 201 was originally slated to be set aside for potential preservation, now it's gone I'm not sure if Angel Trains even plan to set aside a unit for preservation now.

Ray303_265 · 26 May 2019 at 18:16

203 for Goblin work (if it were to come to fruition..)? Decent unit so it is.

hexagon789 · 26 May 2019 at 18:22

Ray303_265 said:
203 for Goblin work (if it were to come to fruition..)? Decent unit so it is.

That was just a rumour!

SC318250 · 26 May 2019 at 18:39

I suspect 203 might last to December

hexagon789 · 26 May 2019 at 18:41

SC318250 said:
I suspect 203 might last to December

The last one?

youngac · 26 May 2019 at 19:27

Which units are more likely to remain serviceable until December and which are on their last legs (wheels)?

Ray303_265 · 26 May 2019 at 20:23

The 507 end of 203 is a far nicer interior than the rest of unit/fleet pity the 507 interior and better seating designs similar to that of the 313s weren’t pursued.....probably too late now!

alangla · 27 May 2019 at 09:06

Kind of ironic it’s the crash damaged one that will be one of the last to go. Would I be right in saying that’s the only one that’s suffered anything more than a shunting bump?

JModulo · 27 May 2019 at 09:10

alangla said:
Kind of ironic it’s the crash damaged one that will be one of the last to go. Would I be right in saying that’s the only one that’s suffered anything more than a shunting bump?

208 and 212 got flooded at Glasgow Central low level upto window level if you can count that. There was also one derailed early on at Jordanhill.

alangla · 27 May 2019 at 09:17

JModulo said:
208 and 212 got flooded at Glasgow Central low level upto window level if you can count that. There was also one derailed early on at Jordanhill.

Thanks, forgot about the flood!

snookertam · 27 May 2019 at 11:21

hexagon789 said:
In all the years I travelled on 314s, I don't think I've ever heard a flat on one.

Interesting that they are fitting a new pantograph considering the remaining units likely haven't too long to go.

Might just be a new pantograph carbon (ie the bit that makes contact with the wires) as they are relatively easy to replace and would likely be done so periodically through wear and tear anyway.

hexagon789 · 27 May 2019 at 11:22

snookertam said:
Might just be a new pantograph carbon (ie the bit that makes contact with the wires) as they are relatively easy to replace and would likely be done so periodically through wear and tear anyway.

A pantograph carbon strip I can understand, yes.

Bikeman78 · 27 May 2019 at 11:44

alangla said:
Kind of ironic it’s the crash damaged one that will be one of the last to go. Would I be right in saying that’s the only one that’s suffered anything more than a shunting bump?

A pair of 314s had a nasty smash with a 303 in the tunnel at Bridgeton Central. I think it was 314210. The cab was badly damaged and the guard was unfortunately killed. There's a picture of it at Glasgow works, incorrectly captioned as 314203.

jazza374 · 27 May 2019 at 11:50

John Clausen said:
A pair of 314s had a nasty smash with a 303 in the tunnel at Bridgeton Central. I think it was 314210. The cab was badly damaged and the guard was unfortunately killed. There's a picture of it at Glasgow works, incorrectly captioned as 314203.

Correct it was 210 which was coupled to 211 at the time. 303 involved was 026.

JModulo · 27 May 2019 at 20:08

snookertam said:
Might just be a new pantograph carbon (ie the bit that makes contact with the wires) as they are relatively easy to replace and would likely be done so periodically through wear and tear anyway.

Its a full new pantograph, not just the head.

hexagon789 · 27 May 2019 at 20:11

JModulo said:
Its a full new pantograph, not just the head.

Wonder why they didn't just use one of the good units seeing as there are more serviceable units than diagrams.

303032 · 29 May 2019 at 22:56

314205 worked this evening's 19.05 service from Glasgow Central - Neilston
314202+314214 worked the 19.28 service from Neilston - Glasgow Central

hexagon789 · 29 May 2019 at 23:30

303032 said:
314205 worked this evening's 19.05 service from Glasgow Central - Neilston
314202+314214 worked the 19.28 service from Neilston - Glasgow Central

Seems to be just 3 units out each day.

380101 · 29 May 2019 at 23:45

hexagon789 said:
I think 314 201 was originally slated to be set aside for potential preservation, now it's gone I'm not sure if Angel Trains even plan to set aside a unit for preservation now.

ScotRail own the 314 fleet outright now. Seemingly part of the compensation from Angel for the HST delays. So it'll be up to ScotRail whether any get preserved I imagine.

hexagon789 · 29 May 2019 at 23:48

380101 said:
ScotRail own the 314 fleet outright now. Seemingly part of the compensation from Angel for the HST delays. So it'll be up to ScotRail whether any get preserved I imagine.

I'd argue that it's more likely one will be set aside at the very least.

Ray303_265 · 30 May 2019 at 17:55

203 & 209 on the Neilston express this evening. Hopefully at least one shall make it into preservation!

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