Surprised it has lasted so long to be honest! When did it last carry passengers?First of the 317/7s are off for scrap tomorrow. Ex-demo set 317722 will be off to Eastleigh Works for disposal by Raxstar
Surprised it has lasted so long to be honest! When did it last carry passengers?First of the 317/7s are off for scrap tomorrow. Ex-demo set 317722 will be off to Eastleigh Works for disposal by Raxstar
It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if their dispensation expired and GA or the DfT are refusing to extend it, which I don’t understand given they’re more compliant than their large 321 fleet (albeit they’re actively in the process of being replaced).I've updated post #454. Long term demic 317504 and 317512 are back in service. Not looking so good for the 317/7. The last one was 317719 on Friday 28th. None have worked since that I know of. They'll struggle to cover the 20 diagrams with 23 units.
It's mind boggling. All the 317s are booked to run in pairs. There are/were only six active 317/7 so pairing them with a compliant unit at all times is very easy.It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if their dispensation expired and GA or the DfT are refusing to extend it, which I don’t understand given they’re more compliant than their large 321 fleet (albeit they’re actively in the process of being replaced).
Exactly - all of the /6s and other non-compliant 317s are either at Ely or have been scrapped. Especially with passenger numbers seeing a large increase, this will not play out well for WAML services...It's mind boggling. All the 317s are booked to run in pairs. There are/were only six active 317/7 so pairing them with a compliant unit at all times is very easy.
Sadly all 317/6s have been scrappedExactly - all of the /6s and other non-compliant 317s are either at Ely or have been scrapped. Especially with passenger numbers seeing a large increase, this will not play out well for WAML services...
I still can’t believe they’re going for storage now just as passenger traffic is starting to pick up... defeats the whole objective of leasing the /7 fleet in the first place IMO.
What’s the status of the ex-Overground /8s? Any chance those will come back?
2 units passed witham london bound at 1032 this morning.890 was scrapped a while ago, the others are still at Ely Papworth but I highly doubt they'll be returning as they aren't PRM compliant.
317508 and 342 on witham test run this morning890 was scrapped a while ago, the others are still at Ely Papworth but I highly doubt they'll be returning as they aren't PRM compliant.
I guess GA can bring back non PRM-compliant units to form a train as long as it is attached to a PRM compliant unit. That's what is happening with the 321's on the GEML. All the non PRM compliant 321's are being attached to a Renatus 321 or an ex-Northern 321/9 or 322 to ensure the service is PRM compliant.890 was scrapped a while ago, the others are still at Ely Papworth but I highly doubt they'll be returning as they aren't PRM compliant.
Are these likely to be returning to service does anyone know?
It's pleasing to note that short formations on West Anglia have reduced almost to zero with the return of these four units. Common sense prevails for once. I think all 27 of the PRM units are now up and running.317338/340/344/883 are all back in service. They all returned from Harwich yesterday (Monday).
Are we expecting these 2 units to be part of those future moves to Ely? Seemed to happen last time units were moved from Harwich to Ilford
I saw 317.881 at Liverpool Street on 11th June when I got off the train. I didn't see what was attached at the other end. But you know that isn't in LO liveryWhat’s the status of the ex-Overground /8s? Any chance those will come back?
Was unit 881 ever with London Overground?I saw 317.881 at Liverpool Street on 11th June when I got off the train. I didn't see what was attached at the other end. But you know that isn't in LO livery
Was unit 881 ever with London Overground?
57305 taking 317729 + 317732 on 5G46 10:34 ILFORDEMD to ELY PAPW 18/06/2157305 taking 317708 on 5G46 10:34 ILFORDEMD to ELY PAPW 16/06/21
According to post #501, 729 & 732 are already there57305 taking 317708 on 5G46 10:34 ILFORDEMD to ELY PAPW 16/06/21
57305 taking 317729 + 317732 on 5G46 10:34 ILFORDEMD to ELY PAPW 18/06/21
So why are they shown in the consist of this train then on trust, as i can only go by what's shown on the system, its up to the human to put the correct details in, so they might not already be there! There looks to be an error somewhere then folks.According to post #501, 729 & 732 are already there