Class 319's into storage/withdrawals tracker

whhistle · 27 Aug 2017

It's a shame at the same time as the refurbishments, they don't re-stylise the front cabs to look like modern trains.

I can't find the PDF from Porterbrook about it (and the Pacers) but it had some interesting images.

EDIT: https://web.archive.org/web/2013121...rook.com/downloads/brochures/319 Brochure.pdf

Although I don't think this was it as there were shots of the Class 144 plans too.

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Islineclear3_1 · 27 Aug 2017

Interesting that the departure board at West Hampstead today gave the unit numbers of the 10.03 departure to Brighton (i.e. 319.443 + 319.440)

hassaanhc · 27 Aug 2017

b0b said:
Are they thrashing the old gal? Let's hope they really get her up to speed on the AC one last time

Between West Hampstead and Radlett only the fast lines were in use (track replacement near Elstree & Borehamwood), and we were following an all-stations service which was caught up after Hendon. But Flitwick to Bedford should hopefully be good

b0b · 27 Aug 2017

Dang it, but keep up the reporting!

westcoaster · 27 Aug 2017

thedbdiboy said:
It clocked East Croydon - Blackfriars in just 22 minutes - normally a crawl across the flat junctions of South London.

Most services were upto 10 early both ways today, due to less services around.

b0b · 27 Aug 2017

I don't know the state of construction - there's no way they could have run the traditional via London Bridge and up the viaduct as a special?

Silverlink · 27 Aug 2017

Was so disappointed the 12:24 to Bedford DID NOT THRASH AT ALL WHEN I GOT ON!! Wanted to hear it scream one last time

Please Explain · 27 Aug 2017

Flitwick.. The end is near..! Come on drive, give it some!!

hwl · 27 Aug 2017

b0b said:
I don't know the state of construction - there's no way they could have run the traditional via London Bridge and up the viaduct as a special?

Not till after a week Monday and then via slight unusual routing.

Techniquest · 27 Aug 2017

Please Explain said:
Cheers Tech,

To be fare though I was being a bit sarcastic, the vast majority of the pax are normals, -at least I think so anyway!
I'm guessing its just so busy because of the bank holiday weekend and with the weather everyone was off to Brighton for the day.
I'm sure it will empty by the time we hit Croydon and the core.

As to more exciting than "Eurotrashi'n"?! NEVER! -(said in my best Antoine de Caunes impression!! )

Not always obvious when someone's being sarcastic on this forum, as I'm sure you've realised!

I don't know the impression you're doing, I must admit. I am slowly becoming a Euro crank, something else you'll be noticing in my trip report thread if you're reading it!

b0b · 27 Aug 2017

And so it's over

387star · 27 Aug 2017

still got the bins on greater anglia they look similar although I have never been on one of those

alternatively head to the third world sorry I mean the north

Kite159 · 27 Aug 2017

387star said:
still got the bins on greater anglia they look similar although I have never been on one of those

alternatively head to the third world sorry I mean the north

I wouldn't class Watford Junction being the North

That reminds me I still want to do a 319 out of Euston one day, even if just to Watford. Just for the noise factor

Islineclear3_1 · 27 Aug 2017

Silverlink said:
Was so disappointed the 12:24 to Bedford DID NOT THRASH AT ALL WHEN I GOT ON!! Wanted to hear it scream one last time

Was in two minds first thing this morning whether to travel up the MML on a 319, hoping for a fast run. Glad I didn't due to everything sharing the fast lines between West Hampstead and Radlett.

Had a more productive day photographing them today and had a pleasant surprise when 426 + 432 came out to play. Of course, I have hundreds of photos of 319s over the years, but could not miss their last day...

Despite the few cancellations today, well done to GTR for their efforts (including the substitution of a set) and the Bedford crew for the farewell headboard. And of course, well done to all the staff who have driven and maintained the 319s over the course of their lives.

Don't forget, their close cousins, the 321's are still alive and well on the GEML and a few 319s can be found on LM, including the St Albans Abbey branch.

b0b · 27 Aug 2017

Kite159 said:
I wouldn't class Watford Junction being the North

That reminds me I still want to do a 319 out of Euston one day, even if just to Watford. Just for the noise factor

Yea there are some nice videos of the 319 thrashing out of Euston on YouTube.

thedbdiboy · 27 Aug 2017

Passing through Gipsy Hill earlier

wls1 · 27 Aug 2017

After today are the 319s off lease?

MatthewRead · 27 Aug 2017

wls1 said:
After today are the 319s off lease?

Yes they are off Thameslink for good:cry:

Silverlink · 27 Aug 2017

Kite159 said:
I wouldn't class Watford Junction being the North

That reminds me I still want to do a 319 out of Euston one day, even if just to Watford. Just for the noise factor

Euston 319 service is really good! A lot of bash/thrash

D7666 · 27 Aug 2017

sharpinf said:
"Farewell Thameslink Class 319s
May 1988- August 2017"

?????

well that's wrong for a start

the first 319 in passenger traffic was 01/12/87 which was 319005 _ and it was out of Bedford too.

the first 319s - had for haulage were 319007+319008 on 16/12/87, and, by "may 88" I'd had over 20 (quickly counting moves records)

I do wish people would research these things.

may 88 (15/05/88 to be exact) was opening of Snow Hill tunnel route to public service, but thats a route date not a 319 date.

--
Nick

387star · 27 Aug 2017

Kite159 said:
I wouldn't class Watford Junction being the North

That reminds me I still want to do a 319 out of Euston one day, even if just to Watford. Just for the noise factor

forgot LM have them

haven't they put some white leather in the first class to jazz them up?

Islineclear3_1 · 27 Aug 2017

D7666 said:
?????

well that's wrong for a start

the first 319 in passenger traffic was 01/12/87 which was 319005 _ and it was out of Bedford too.

the first 319s - had for haulage were 319007+319008 on 16/12/87, and, by "may 88" I'd had over 20 (quickly counting moves records)

I do wish people would research these things.

may 88 (15/05/88 to be exact) was opening of Snow Hill tunnel route to public service, but thats a route date not a 319 date.

--
Nick

Yes, I thought the date was a bit odd, I did wonder so thanks for clarifying.... I remember photographing 319s in 1987 and had a vague recollection of the Snow Hill tunnel opening in May 1988 - 319s certainly did run before then... I'm gonna have to dig out my old 35mm negs... remember film anyone?

Domh245 · 27 Aug 2017

D7666 said:
may 88 (15/05/88 to be exact) was opening of Snow Hill tunnel route to public service, but thats a route date not a 319 date.

--
Nick

It isn't a class retirement though, it is all about their retirement from the Thameslink route (as a whole). When the last 319 is retired from the North and sent for scrapping, then a 1987 date on a headboard would be appropriate, but not for this occasion.

D7666 · 27 Aug 2017

Domh245 said:
It isn't a class retirement though, it is all about their retirement from the Thameslink route (as a whole). When the last 319 is retired from the North and sent for scrapping, then a 1987 date on a headboard would be appropriate, but not for this occasion.

its retirement from the thameslink business

12/87 is the correct date

--
Nick

Class455 · 28 Aug 2017

I have updated the list... what an evening tonight was. I was in carriage 7 of the last ever train, 1W46 between East Croydon and West Hampstead Thameslink. I seriously cannot believe the Class 319's are all gone now. I have grown up with them speeding past on Thameslink service and it will get a while to get used to seeing no Class 319's on Thameslink.

On departure from West Hampstead Thameslink, the driver gave us a huge tone from the horn as well as a final whistle as it crossed with 700 044 at West Hampstead Thameslink.
I will really miss these units. For this thread though, well it will now be used to track the locations of all the 319's. I will edit it tomorrow maybe.

Class455 · 28 Aug 2017

Meanwhile 319421 is now back at Long Marston. It was at Bombardier Derby (Litchurch Lane) for some reason?

Class455 · 28 Aug 2017

A pair of Class 319s are on the move today. Wonder if this is 319440+319443 which failed yesterday:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C00006/2017/08/28/advanced

Class319&373 · 28 Aug 2017

Sadly my 700 pulled up on plat. 3 right after the move went through. So I didn't catch the unit numbers at all, but I'm staying for 435s and 217s final move on their own power from the Carriage Sidings to Cauldwell Depot.

Class455 · 28 Aug 2017

Class319&373 said:
Sadly my 700 pulled up on plat. 3 right after the move went through. So I didn't catch the unit numbers at all, but I'm staying for 435s and 217s final move on their own power from the Carriage Sidings to Cauldwell Depot.

They were 319432 and 426, fresh out of service from yesterday. Have updated the list.

thelem · 28 Aug 2017

D7666 said:
its retirement from the thameslink business

12/87 is the correct date

How can 12/87 be the correct date if Thameslink didn't exist open 5/88?

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